Michael Gira (1 Viewer)

[David Kronenbourg]

jaysis, thumped really went to town on her there!

 

[nooleen]

so did you show her the thread in the end?

 

[Mormon Nailer]

Naw.
I'm a pretend asshole - not a real one (I think!)

RSJ will e delighted to her that his picture has found a wider audience and is now the picture on her Wikipedia page.

Isn't "exposure" great!

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

well exactly

None then?

 

[nooleen]

in the context of an allegation of taking advantage of a younger woman who he had a lot of influence over, a recently-acquired younger wife isn't a great choice of character witness

 

[Mormon Nailer]

The wife's meandering stream of consciousness Facebook post doesn't really paint her in the most reliable colours either.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Michael Gira of Swans Accused by Singer/Songwriter Larkin Grimm of Rape and Harassment | SPIN

That's a genuine wtf/wow

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

The wife's meandering stream of consciousness Facebook post

Which takes a fantastic (from a sideline spectator popcorn viewpoint) rambling detour into talking about herself and her own experiences with sexual violence and redemption.

Both of these alleged assaults are horrible, but the spectacle of famous musicians descending into a good old-fashioned poo-flinging fight on FB is some good internet.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Do I like sharing such info on the internet? NO,

LOL

Again, not mocking her pain. But the idea that she doesn't like talking about herself seems at odds with her talking about herself here.

 

[rettucs]

Sorry, but regardless of the allegations here, Gira is a complete cunt. He is encouraging a witch-hunt over on facebook and lots of people are biting.

I've lost all respect for him now.

 

[David Kronenbourg]

Sorry, but regardless of the allegations here, Gira is a complete cunt. He is encouraging a witch-hunt over on facebook and lots of people are biting.

I've lost all respect for him now.

what's he doing?

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

 

[rettucs]

what's he doing?

he posted a link to an interview from 2012 (with Grimm) where she says nice things about him.

But also, parts of the interview are open to interpretation IMO.

I don't know the rights and wrongs of this situtation, as regards the allegations, but he should not be airing this shit in public the way he's doing. And, the allegations must be taken seriously and investigated. IMO.

 

[tim]

he posted a link to an interview from 2012 (with Grimm) where she says nice things about him.

But also, parts of the interview are open to interpretation IMO.

I don't know the rights and wrongs of this situtation, as regards the allegations, but he should not be airing this shit in public the way he's doing. And, the allegations must be taken seriously and investigated. IMO.

Don't think he really started the airing in public part here.....

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

I don't know the rights and wrongs of this situtation, as regards the allegations, but he should not be airing this shit in public the way he's doing. And, the allegations must be taken seriously and investigated. IMO.

She'd have to make a complaint to the cops for that to happen, right?
For whatever reasons, it seems more like she just wants this story out on the internet. Maybe she's lawyering up though.

Really though, it's two musicians trading accusations and we have zero way of knowing what is truth and what is not.
The only thing to do is watch the fight.

ETA
This is likely a result of that Kesha story being everywhere this week.

 

[rettucs]

She'd have to make a complaint to the cops for that to happen, right?
For whatever reasons, it seems more like she just wants this story out on the internet. Maybe she's lawyering up though.

Really though, it's two musicians trading accusations and we have zero way of knowing what is truth and what is not.
The only thing to do is watch the fight.

ETA
This is likely a result of that Kesha story being everywhere this week.

it is, she mentioned that in her statement.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

it is, she mentioned that in her statement.

Well, there's nothing I like doing more than stating the obvious.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

jaysis, thumped really went to town on her there!

Well, she's clearly off her rocker in the artist unchecked ego Kanye Shia sense.

Bonkers or not, her story sounds completely believable in this case.
Maybe having a go on the internet is the only justice she can hope to get here.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

in the context of an allegation of taking advantage of a younger woman who he had a lot of influence over, a recently-acquired younger wife isn't a great choice of character witness

She's his wife, why shouldn't she defend her husband, particularly if, as she says, she has further information that the rest of us don't. Her age shouldn't really come into it.

 

[MacDara]

ETA
This is likely a result of that Kesha story being everywhere this week.

It also comes a day after the frontman of Psalm Zero (which includes a former member of the Dirty Projectors, who also once included Grimm) was kicked out of the band after sexually assaulting someone who is good friends with a number of online friends of mine.