Justin Barratt Attacked (2 Viewers)

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Justin Barrett is an ex member of the Christian Solidarity Party- I say ex coz he was kicked out because of his extreme views... and this coming from the "every sperm is sacred" crew- who are up there with the "lambs of god" or whatever those american christian [nazi] fundamentalists call themselves...

fair play- bash the fash!
 
AFA = anti facist action .....
says on stormfront.org that justin barret is speaking in galway today (thursday 14th) so if anyone from galway wants to give him a similar welcome then head on over to stormfront.org and check out where hes speaking...
 
weeler said:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=158885

apparently one skinhead started crying, funny shit!!

Nice one to whoever did this.

:D

What precisely was the point of that? Just because people don't agree with Barrett's opinions doesn't mean that they're entitled to deny his right to free speech. I certainly have very little time for Barrett, but I don't have the right to arbitrate who does or doesn't have the right to express their views.

Ever since his true political motivation has been exposed, support or sympathy for Barrett has practically disappeared (he polled the same number of votes in the Euros as Clifford "scourge of the Kiddy-fiddlers" Reid - another wanker, but that's a story for another day) - the very fact that he's on the same platform as the distinctly batty Aine Ni Chonaill says as much.

What was the thinking behind beating on Barrett anyway? Why does it take 12 or 25 men to stop a 5'0" runt speaking? Were they trying to win him sympathy or something?
 
On an altogether lighter note....

What is it about Stormfront contributors' inadequate command of the English language? Is subnormal linguistic ability a prequisite for membership? Or is it perhaps that they're developing some kind of whites-only dialect?
 
it's a bit ironic that these people moan about bloody foreigners coming over and taking our jobs whereas the majority of these people seem like the most unemployable illiterate personality challenged human beings about...
the reason why foreigners are gettting their jobs is because they can read and write and aren't openly psychotic....
funny old world innit......
 
there was a few girls there too...it wasn't just men. but i see your point. there was alot of anger over Barretts involvement in violently breaking up a pro-choice rally. complaining about his use of violence on a political matter. there was a motion before the debate to determine how many people didn't want him to speak. it was defeated. most people accepted that.

in assaulting him, they've given him something to work with. i don't think he should have been chosen to speak last night on the same podium as Aine Ni Chonaill, considering her extreme racism too. it showed little forsight. but attacking him wasnt the way to go.
 
ElderLemon said:
What precisely was the point of that? Just because people don't agree with Barrett's opinions doesn't mean that they're entitled to deny his right to free speech. I certainly have very little time for Barrett, but I don't have the right to arbitrate who does or doesn't have the right to express their views.

Ever since his true political motivation has been exposed, support or sympathy for Barrett has practically disappeared (he polled the same number of votes in the Euros as Clifford "scourge of the Kiddy-fiddlers" Reid - another wanker, but that's a story for another day) - the very fact that he's on the same platform as the distinctly batty Aine Ni Chonaill says as much.

What was the thinking behind beating on Barrett anyway? Why does it take 12 or 25 men to stop a 5'0" runt speaking? Were they trying to win him sympathy or something?

The first thing that nazi's will deny you is freedom of speech so etc:.....
 
First of all, I really don't think he was "attacked" or that he received a "beating", he was accosted at most and told that he wouldn't be given a platform. He was quickly escorted away from the podium to safety. It was mostly the hired security/servics attacking AFA members and others that took to the stage. Anyone that did get a beating were actual skinheads in the audience who are known to AFA.

Taken from indymedia thread ( http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=67000 )
"The two boneheads types daft enough to turn up does confirm what those who opposed giving Barrett a platform were saying before hand - that the danger was not what he might say but that the L&H were providing an organising space for these types. You'd wonder if in Germany in the 1920's you had university 'debating' societies doing the same thing with topics like 'The Jewish Question'? "Oh I don't agree with anything Mr Hitler has to say but blah blah blah'

Probably worth pointing out that everyone actually sat quietly through around 6 VERY stupid students speakers and 9 minutes of Aine Ni Conall before doing the stage invasion when Barrett was asked up. Aine was mad, she started off trying to sound moderate but lost the plot and went on a racist rant about Nigerians. But people sitting through her offensive shit demonstrates that its not racist ideas they are afraid of but the threat of any fascists getting organised around Justin and his ilk."


Also "there was alot of anger over Barretts involvement in violently breaking up a pro-choice rally" makes it sound like it was a singular occurence, it most certainly wasn't.

This other post on the thread sort of sum's up my opinions and gives a bit of background on the groups that justin barrett is involved in, and as with any protest/etc. and with hindsight there were things that should have been done differently.

"hi, at one point in the early 90s I was involved in a debate about abortion with members of youth defense in trinity - they threatened to break my legs. Shortly afterwards they - assisted by thugs drinking in the pub below - attacked a picket of their headquearters on Thomas St. with snooker cues, batons and if i recall correctly also a bible, which gave somebody a bloody nose. The incident received a lot of attention because they also hit a photographer from the Mirro with a snooker cue, but his assistant sanpped a photo as it happened and the photo was published on several occasions.

During that period they attempted to intimidate several people - following people in vans and very direct threats were the order of the day. During that period they had two specific hook-ups with dodgy characters.One was the a quy who fancied himself as a hard man and had been kicked out of Tallaght by republicans for his involvement with drug dealing. Another was a former member of an irrelevant republican splinter group who was subsequently owner of a bar in the south inner city which was a well known hangout for anti-social criminals. They had their offices upstairs. He died some years agoI believe.

Their connections with Forza Nuova have been mentioned above. It is believed that they also received printing equipment from the Fiore gang in London. Fiore runs a multi-million euro businness called easy london which offers housing and job placement services for young Italians wanting to gon to the UK to work. There he employs gangs of polish skinheads as enforcers and rent-collectors, intimidating young people who are housed in shitty conditions. The profits from the business are used to set up offices for FN all over Italy, which they are doing at an alarming rate.

In Rome, Lucca, Bari and elsewhere the FN have been attacking/knifing people (11/12 of them are currently under investigation in Bari). These are Barrett's friends, and I can only assume that he would like his political formation to be able to act in a comparable way. Draw your own conclusions.

Enjoy the debate about freedom of speech etc, but remember that some of us have an experience which has taught that when you meet them it's not a matter of reasoned argument. I prefer to see this dilemma dealt with in another way. Red Action, who were one of the most historically effective forces in anti-fascist action in britain, long enforced a very clear policy of no platform for fascists on the street, but if you go to their website you will see that they frequently debate with members of the NF/BNP, do not kick them off their boards or censor them politically, precisely so as to meet and beat their arguments. I believe that this is the right approach."
 

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