JULIA LASAGNE (1 Viewer)

[Mormon Nailer]

your head has gone up your hole.

Surely that would mean me bypassing my cock and balls with my own mouth.
Sounds unlikely.

 

[ann post]

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/20/naomi_wolf_vs_jaclyn_friedman_a


Naomi Wolf vs. Jaclyn Friedman: Feminists Debate the Sexual Allegations Against Julian Assange

great avatar johhny.

did i miss xmas avatars this year?

 

[Lili Marlene]

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/20/naomi_wolf_vs_jaclyn_friedman_a


Naomi Wolf vs. Jaclyn Friedman: Feminists Debate the Sexual Allegations Against Julian Assange

so.... so.... very.... smug.

i haven't even got as far as the debate yet

great avatar johhny.

did i miss xmas avatars this year?

I have one but it's almost impossible to make out

 

[Mormon Nailer]

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/12/20/naomi_wolf_vs_jaclyn_friedman_a


Naomi Wolf vs. Jaclyn Friedman: Feminists Debate the Sexual Allegations Against Julian Assange

Listening to that now.

I have to say though, both of Naomi Wolf's articles on this subject have been batshit insane

 

[ann post]

I have one but it's almost impossible to make out

i seen it in the xmas pics thread. i better sort something here.

 

[ann post]

http://www.johnpilger.com/articles/protect-assange-don-t-abuse-him

 

[Mormon Nailer]

Saw him on TV the other night. I'll be honest I expected more of Pilger.

 

[ann post]

Saw him on TV the other night. I'll be honest I expected more of Pilger.

explain more.

also explain how publishing factual documents as opposed to biased PR relates to the definition of 'troll'.

 

[Lili Marlene]

I've been listening to that debate and i'm inclined to go with Naomi Wolf even though her argument is basically 'it wasn't rape rape....... ps. 23 years'.

But then again I had a grand old time in the Polanski thread didn't I?

 

[Space]

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=477691926233&id=1021408357

Cuban news agencies Granma and Prensa Latina says that Julian Assange's 'rape' accuser, Anna Ardin, is a Cuban CIA collaborator who has been working with Miami-based, US Government paid agencies. They say Ardin is linked to the anti-Cuban terrorist Carlos Aberto Montaner.



After leaving Cuba, Ardin worked with web sites financed by USAID and controlled by the CIA. One of these sites was 'Miscelánea de Cuba', run by the Cuban Alexis Gainza. Through Gainza she became linked to Swediish agencies, including Dagens Nyheter and SVT, and entered the Swedish social democrat party.



Gainza is linked to the German Internationale Gesellschaft für Menschenrechte (International Human Rights Society), a group linked to German and US intelligence and has some former nazis (such as Ludwig Martin) and ex military figures (Dieter von Glahn) in its ranks.



The current president of the IGFM, Martin Lessenthin, works closely with the Venezuelan oppsoition party Primero Justicia, led by the anti-Chavez terrorist Alejandro Peña.



Primero Justicia, in turn is the main partner of the International republican Institute, and extreme right wing group funded by the US Government's National Endowment for Democracy.

 

[egg_]

I've been listening to that debate

I only skimmed the transcript, but it seems to me that Jaclyn whatever is saying that unless the man keeps asking the woman "is this ok?" and waiting for a definite "YES" before proceeding then he's raping her? Am I picking this shit up right?

 

[Mormon Nailer]

Yeah she is a bit loopy alright.
Wolfe made her case mush better, both of her articles were rubbish but she made a better argument there.
I still don't buy her argument though.

I find all of the following pretty unconvincing (and nauseating, to a greater or lesser degree)
Wikileaks is great, therefore these accusations are untrue.
Powerful people hate wikileaks, therefore this is obviously a setup.
I know exactly how someone should behave in these circumstances and therefore I think the girls are lying
I've trawled the girl's faceook and twitter feeds and she's not trustworthy

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

http://www.peopleokwithmurderingassange.com/

should we nominate mormon?

 

[D0njo]

http://www.peopleokwithmurderingassange.com/

should we nominate mormon?

That's a bit mad.

 

[Mormon Nailer]

http://www.peopleokwithmurderingassange.com/

should we nominate mormon?

I like wikileaks, I think it serves a useful purpose.

On the other hand I think Lassagne is a egotistical control freak and is destroying the organisation.

I can't be the only person in the world who thinks it odd that the organisation is constantly hinting at info they might release soon. Bank of America, Arabs with ties to CIA etc. If you truly value openness then you don't hold info from the public so you can have a bargaining chip in your leader's mickey troubles.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

I was only poking fun,agree with you on all the above.

 

[D0njo]

Yeah.. wikileaks has always been interesting, I suppose I wasn't too concerned with yer man until all this shcandal.. I suppose I'm not now either. Great publicity though.

 

[Mormon Nailer]

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/02/the-guardian-201102

Wow.
The nuts and bolts are - he made a deal with the guardian, gave them the advance copy under strict embargo, but kept adding other media outlets to the deal without telling them - to the point that Guardian received a second copy independently and threatened to break the embargo with it. Julia flips and threatens to sue if the Guardian leaks.

 

[ann post]

also that article is dated february 2011.

 

[Mormon Nailer]

also that article is dated february 2011.

It was released last night.
Magazines set the date early as a matter of course. They think it gives them an advantage over their competitors if their product is seen to be more recent.