I was being crankyThat's exactly what i said now that i think about it. Sorry i must have typed something completely different while saying it
This shitshow of "repression, lies and death" you're talking about though is regularly not coming from the elected leftist leaders, it's coming from Capitalist powers, who are for reasons unknown terrified of the left gaining a foothold.
I was being cranky
More angry at myself for not making my point well enough - this gem of a thought of mine that needed out in the world of ideas
That the repression and lies and death under communism somehow came from capitalist subversion
It did not. The call was coming from inside the house.
Any totalitarian regime - especially communism, which somehow cannot exist if there are competing systems anywhere - cannot exist by allowing dissension.
It's why Stalin killed anyone who looked crooked and people would rather run the risk of getting shot than live under communism, and why someone would stand in front of a tank for an idea.
The capitalists didn't do that to these regimes, they did it to themselves. Because they always do.
They will lock up or kill anyone with the 'wrong' idea.
They don't need the evil capitalists help with that.
Stalin killed 20 million.
But Communism would have worked if only blah blah blah.
Communism is still a fetid hellhole to live in no matter how evil the Brits were. And they were plenty evil.
Also, all empires are bad.
I have plenty of bats in the belfry, like most everyone on here.ok I think you’re living with some kind of looney-tunes version of the twentieth century bouncing around inside your head, which must be pretty exhausting. but I’m tempted to go full-on devil’s advocate here just out of a sort of soft trollishness. so — communism? you mean, the only social system that can create conditions where families are legally defined as being whatever people want them to be?
“Under the principle that love is the first condition a family needs to exist, the new Families Code has the merit of broadening the concepts of inclusion we have known so far”
Recognizing the existence in Cuba of multiple family structures that break with the traditional model is among the most significant elements of the new Families Code being drafteden.granma.cu
I think the disconnect here is that some folks here see all the bad stuff as a by-product of other aspects of the russian/chinese political systems, and not necessarily the fact they were communist. Lots of awful stuff happened in pre-communist Russia, for example, and in other non-communist authoritarian regimes like Pincochet's (or The Super Obvious German Dude who I won't mention just to avoid invoking Godwin's law)Anyways, I don't mean to go overboard, it's just overall surprising to me that people here want to defend Stalin's system of govt. Or in the matter of the Tianamen Sq, tank, they're with the guys who ordered the tanks in.
But I guess if you love Communism, or have some idea that it never got a fair go, then you can't see any of that.
Thank youI think that things like show trials and thought policing are probably implicit in ideology-based political systems
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