Hardened Anarchists in "I will vote" Shocker! (2 Viewers)

[the strange guy]

A referendum has just been announced on whether or not babies born to non-nationals can claim Irish citizenship.

Let's see how many of you will spoil your votes this time.

 

[Alan Remorse]

to be honest its not an issue thats really very urgent for me...

the real issue for me is the fact that the fucking government refuses to give any reason for this referendum other than that every other country in the EU refuses to grant citizenship...

all our fucking retarded government cares about is what will impress the EU.. like the fact that they wont press to have Irish recognised as a language in the EU because "it isnt the right time"...

if they actually had the guts to give the real reason for this referendum (which is that they're desperately trying every single option in an attempt to "improve" the state of the country in time for elections) then it would have some merit.

and anyway, every racist (believe me, theyre the majority) in the country will vote to ban automatic citizenships, which FF know full fucking well

 

[the strange guy]

Yeh. You're right. Better not vote then.

 

[Phil]

I will be writing "Dustin" on and ticking that.

 

[broken arm]

do anarchists dig democracy?

 

[Alan Remorse]

pah, there's no time for democracy when there's precious knacker drinking to do

 

[brianMy Remorse]

Irish is recognised as a language in Europe. just look at your passport which has your nationality written in loads of languages including irish and as far as i know this appears on foreign passports aswell (eu ones that is)and there is case law showing that irish is an acknowledged language. hah! studying law is good for something.

 

[Alan Remorse]

no i dont think they meant it like that... as in, im pretty sure the issue was in meetings of EU commissioners that Irish be a valid language to be used... something along those lines anyways. why should i care anyway, i hate the irish language.... i'm only speaking about the little bits of info i picked up from the news while jerking off to my sordid images of Anne Doyle

 

[brianMy Remorse]

Sharon Ni Bheolain ..........prrrrrrrrrrr

 

[Shorty]

do anarchists dig democracy?

Why? What do you think anarchists "dig"? Hasn't this already been discussed with you in another thread?

A referendum has just been announced on whether or not babies born to non-nationals can claim Irish citizenship.

Let's see how many of you will spoil your votes this time.

Isn't a referendum a form of direct/participatory democracy? Wasn't there a Libertarians Against Nice group comprised mainly of anarchists which encouraged people to vote in the Nice Referendum?

Aren't these all leading or rhetorical questions? Does anyone actually care? Am I not up past my bed time?

 

[broken arm]

Isn't a referendum a form of direct/participatory democracy?

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[Alan Remorse]

enough of this serious talk... time to explore my dreams of Anne Doyle reading Stock Exchange figures aloud while i shaft her from behind

 

[Shorty]

Ooh!

 

[Shorty]

http://www.tshirthell.com/hell.shtml

 

[Corm]

I'll vote, if I'm here. Anyway Oly, what's the point of expressing something like this in such negative terms? I've voted in referendums before, but not in elections. Very different than voting to choose who gets to run your life. Although I was tempted to go home to vote in the recent elections in Roscommon, since Ming was in our constituency.

I'm curious as to why its not an urgent issue to you Alan? Lets say you move to England and meet a girl from somewhere non-British and youse have a kid. And what if that kid was really sick and you were just working a shitty job with no money or prospects, and you were told "no, you don't get healthcare for your kid, its a non-national". Well that's what'll happen here to thousands of people no different to the rest of us.

 

[Alan Remorse]

I'm curious as to why its not an urgent issue to you Alan? Lets say you move to England and meet a girl from somewhere non-British and youse have a kid. And what if that kid was really sick and you were just working a shitty job with no money or prospects, and you were told "no, you don't get healthcare for your kid, its a non-national". Well that's what'll happen here to thousands of people no different to the rest of us.

no, you misunderstood what i was saying... of course its an important issue but i was saying that i was more distracted by the government's reasons for holding the referendum.

i'm gonna vote in this, definitely, but the whole EU acceptance issue was bugging me for ages and seeing this finally pissed me off enough to go on a rant

 

[Corm]

Cool, sorry.

 

[the strange guy]

Anyway Oly, what's the point of expressing something like this in such negative terms?

I wanted to see how many people would try and justify not voting and doing it any other way just doesn't please me as much.

 

[São Paulo Punk]

no i dont think they meant it like that... as in, im pretty sure the issue was in meetings of EU commissioners that Irish be a valid language to be used... something along those lines anyways. why should i care anyway, i hate the irish language.... i'm only speaking about the little bits of info i picked up from the news while jerking off to my sordid images of Anne Doyle

Sorry, but I saw her in Rathmines last year. I managed to get pretty close to her (about 1 meter away). She's fucked. I'm sorry. RTE must be putting a lot of vaseline on the lenses these days. But I guess there's room for fantasy there.

She's more make-up than Anne now! And she wont stop, until...

 

[mc moley]

whats the craic with your kid ownsie? will he be allowed in if the outcome is bad?

i dont see the problem in voting.......i know its jepradising your morals/ideals to suit somebody elses.....but.
if all the people who spoiled votes or didnt bother voting in certain elections, such as the u.s.a or even here, you can get a more sympathetic leader who will not bomb the fuck outta everyone or let mad bastards use shannon. and then from there try to make a change via whatever you believe in such as anarchism, protests etc etc.
i think it makes more sense than just going.....'oh well i didnt vote not my fault he's bombing everyone...... im an anarchist!'

obviously 'leaders' is not the ideal situation but perhaps to get to a better situation we might need to elect a more humanitarian(or one who might be more sound) prime minister/pres/whatever as a stepping stone to better things, weather they include more social welfare or more rights for people. and work from there.
personally i think political anarchism is far too idealistic, personal 'anarchism' if you would call it that seems to be a better solution.