Cormcolash
Well-Known Member
Less than they're spending on the Liffey rafting square
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No, it's not essential - Irish traditional music thrived for a long time without players being professionals. But here's the thing - the professionals are better. Martin Hayes, for example, is light years ahead of my Da when it comes to playing the fiddle. Similarly, David Bowie's songs are better than mine. If artists are funded enough to do it full-time then we all benefit, I think ... but obvs the state can't be funding every rockstar/ballet/whatever wannabe, cos you get into diminishing returns pretty quick
Well so far we have ruled out funding for Greyhound racing and, for some reason, Fatboy Slim.
I mean i dunno, the Housemartins have a few good tunes.
have you ever hired a ballet dancer to fix your electric shower?
This is the thing, and something where I always struggle conceptually is the demarcation between 'participant' 'practitioner' and 'artist'..
I think there's probably a better 'greater good' argument for throwing money at the participation part (read about things like 'social prescribing')
but deciding where the line is drawn in terms of funding between the other two categories and who makes that call is problematic
No, it's not essential - Irish traditional music thrived for a long time without players being professionals. But here's the thing - the professionals are better. Martin Hayes, for example, is light years ahead of my Da when it comes to playing the fiddle. Similarly, David Bowie's songs are better than mine. If artists are funded enough to do it full-time then we all benefit, I think ... but obvs the state can't be funding every rockstar/ballet/whatever wannabe, cos you get into diminishing returns pretty quick
it was a crap movie with some lesbian porn thrown in.yeah, there was even a major film based on it with natalie portman and mila kunis, at least I think it was all about madness
nuke terrorists argument seems to be that there should be no money given to the arts at all.
Which Spotify are doing their part in making happen I guess. Anarcho capitalism 4ever
I'd intervene that it either died years ago or never existed. Take any venue in the country and ask did they pay all their musicians living wage for the hours they put in. The answer will always be no. It was being funded by musicians already.but I accept without intervention the live music scene is at serious risk at the moment.
well, whaddya know.they get a fuckload of money - nearly 20 million, i think? there's less money spent on the national parks and wildlife service.
greyhound racing can get fucked. any 'sport' whose *only* raison d'etre is to feed the gambling industry, and still can't turn a profit, can get fucked.
I'd intervene that it either died years ago or never existed. Take any venue in the country and ask did they pay all their musicians living wage for the hours they put in. The answer will always be no. It was being funded by musicians already.
I'm more talking about venues disappearing, people who do the grunt work at gigs, sound engineers...
what is happening with people who do rigging, run P.A. systems and sell or lease instruments that no
one can use at the moment ?
they were guaranteed fairly regular work before but have nothing lined up now.
I just disagree over the state not funding the arts. I think the state should fund the arts.I said a couple of pages back that I'd spend the arts and culture budget mostly on kids
and you said it was a good idea.
after 20 years I bet you music/arts/culture would take care of itself - instead of spending it on 'artistes'.
spotify is pointless. nowhere near as good as bandcamp or you tube.
I never download music unless I'm sent it by the artist (happened once this year).
I spend more of my spare cash on records than everything else put together.
but I accept without intervention the live music scene is at serious risk at the moment.
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