Maths and science arent the same.
You are completely missing the point of how science works.
Blades is 100% right and you are 100% - and it has nothing to do with philosophy.
Ro is right - there is no certainty. The theory we have now explains the facts we have observed till now. Newtonian gravitation agreed with the fact observable untill (actually the anniversary of the first expirimental confirmation of relativity was yesterday) new phenomona were observed which needed to be explained.
There is nothing which is proved there is simply a cycle of
Observation
Formulate Theory
Expiriment
Nothing is ever set in stone in science .
You seem to think that this is the same as saying every theory is equally valid. That is not the case. A theory that is not suported by expiriment/observation is outright wrong and one which has no predictive value is just not very useful (whether right or wrong)
This lack of dogmsa is exactly what makes science powerful. The fact that everything is up for grabs and the only yardstick is expiriment is what allows progress.
Emm. Ok, so, maths vrs science. Mathematics is part of science. And, essentially all other science is built upon maths.
" You seem to think that this is the same as saying every theory is equally valid."
No. I did not say that, or imply that (I think). People were talking about Philosphy of science. That nothing is proven in science.
I was agreeing, nothing is proven absolutely. Things are proven beyond resonable doubt.
I was trying to set up a sliding scale of things that are "proven". And, I was starting with 1+1 = 2. That is "proven", once you accept a few caveats.
I was saying evolution is up there, right at the top more or less, of things we are pretty sure about. Up there with things like "the sun's energy drives most life on earth". Safe bets.
You can talk about philosphy of science, but, that is a different issue.
You can talk about big bang, but again, that is a different issue.
We are talking about evolution, and in that subject, there is no doubt that it works and happens. At all.
This is the same thing with all of these ID people. Every time you try to pin them, they step left, and ask or answer a different question. Another topic is brought up. They muddy the water. It is a classic argumentative approach.
Ahh but you are not sure.
Correct. We are not sure about anything.
See??? Therefore GOD did it!!!
Wrong.
God explains nothing. Adds nothing. Answers nothing.
Darwin's theory does all of these things. And it does them comprehenisively. There are no holes in the theory. There aren't any.
And.... if I was rough with people, or rude to people, alright, sorry about that. I tend to argue this sort of point reasonably hard.
I am not really a prick. I swear. I am lovely once you get to know me.