Church burning in cork? (1 Viewer)

[RSJ]

 

[Willie Willions]

But apart from that, that Evens gig in the Nicholas of Myra kind of felt like being at mass again, with Fr.Ian McKaye and Sister I dont know what her name is. A bit of talking(preaching , a bit of music, a mixed age audience (congregation) etc... could that be an example of possible future gigs as the scene ages over time? With free wine and bread/sos rolls?

Now THATS a scary future.

 

[glen]

Janer - can you remember when they invented trad?

 

[Manta Ray]

Seriously though, well kind of anyway, what are the prospects for the elderly in DIY, not necessarily right now but in the future when we're all too fucked to listen to loud amps and heavy drums and too fucked to drink heavily and get mashed.

you're really just concentrating on the diy PUNK scene. Being a young person of this generation, I can dig it because its relevant to me, but it's not the be all and end all of the posibilities of diy. Diy is an ideal that's applicable to anything and there are examples of this in every sector of life, and there should be more! It would be a very bad thing to associate autonomy and self activity only with middleclass drunken crusties. Other communities are capable of self empowerment to! Think about anything that anyone can enjoy in groups like sports, music, social events of any kind, art and craft groups and an unlimited array of social projects and organizing. Thats just the shit that old folx need to keep em full of life, not archaic religious doctrine!

 

[nofunchee]

...middleclass drunken crusties....

is there a crusty backlash going on these days or is it just my imagination? the gig discussion thread is full of anti-crusty sentiment. it's not even like there's too many in ireland...

 

[Rimbaud]

I just thought this photo was hilarious.

 

[Manta Ray]

is there a crusty backlash going on these days or is it just my imagination? the gig discussion thread is full of anti-crusty sentiment. it's not even like there's too many in ireland...

you're right, there does seem to be alot of anti crusty sentiment these days. Not what I meant though, I listen to my fair share of crust and Im on my way to K-Town this year. I even have a fledgling mullet .|..|

 

[Janer]

I just thought this photo was hilarious.

Me too

 

[nooleen]

is there a crusty backlash going on these days or is it just my imagination? the gig discussion thread is full of anti-crusty sentiment. it's not even like there's too many in ireland...

it's all the people who are upset because they've been trying for years to be cool and then crusties come along all sexy and cool and piss all over their sad attempts to be 'with it', and what used to be 'it' isn't 'it' any more. it's sad and regrettable but i don't think it should take up an inordinate amount of anyone's time.

 

[nooleen]

PS: great picture! what makes it is the washed up alco laughing in toothless glee. he looks like someone i'd probably end up with.

 

[nofunchee]

it's all the people who are upset because they've been trying for years to be cool and then crusties come along all sexy and cool and piss all over their sad attempts to be 'with it', and what used to be 'it' isn't 'it' any more. it's sad and regrettable but i don't think it should take up an inordinate amount of anyone's time.

that's what i thought - bad apples like nooly messing things up for everyone.

 

[RSJ]

middleclass drunken crusties

Actually the Fulhams are upper class.

 

[nooleen]

that's what i thought - bad apples like nooly messing things up for everyone.

well it's not fair. when do i get to be one of the cool kids??

 

[nofunchee]

well it's not fair. when do i get to be one of the cool kids??

i don't know nooly. i really don't.

 

[São Paulo Punk]

It would be a very bad thing to associate autonomy and self activity only with middleclass drunken crusties.

Sorry, I meant the DIY punk/music scene, though I dont know how you read into that as being an association of autonomy with middle class whatever.

Diy is an ideal that's applicable to anything and there are examples of this in every sector of life.

That really cleared things up for me, thanks.

 

[spuded]

ah yeah sure all crusties are middeclass

same the way mrr and zines always go on about how punk is a white boy suburban middle class thing, yeah maybe it is in the fuckin states but that shit really annoys me cause it totally underestimates the size on the punk scenes all over the world that are not white nor middle class.

 

[Janer]

Punk started off working class, I find it is mostly middle class now in the south of Ireland now.

 

[spuded]

Punk started off working class, I find it is mostly middle class now in the south of Ireland now.

how do you know who's middle class or upper class or working class at gigs then, im intrigued?

 

[nooleen]

the middle class are the ones who don't want to pay in cos they're 'broke'

 

[Janer]

how do you know who's middle class or upper class or working class at gigs then, im intrigued?

I shall explain next time I see you Edward