Celebrity Creeps Thread (6 Viewers)

[nooleen]

#classicnooly

 

[ann post]

As in he's a rapist megalomaniac celeb and his victims get to be the subject of a misogynistic internet pile-on? I think we're there already

my very rough post mortem on depp vs heard is that depp was cleared because she fabricated a load of shit.

But what i meant in this case is that it'll become everyones celebrity drama for a few months and whos right/wrong is completely irrelevant so long as people score internet points.

 

[nooleen]

Johnny Depp trial: how the judge ruled on 14 alleged assaults

Twelve of 14 allegations by Amber Heard found to be ‘proved to the civil standard’

www.theguardian.com

What I meant in both cases is that many people will side with a male celeb and very readily hate any woman going against him.

 

[Deadmanposting]

So, is it generally accepted that the rape allegations aren't true? Because if they are true, we are monsters.

Consistent accusations from female supporters about him agreeing to sex with condoms and then him slipping them off, or waking up to this guy having sex with them.
It's when these women connected their stories that they went to the cops. They wanted STD tests for peace of mind.
This is people who liked him and believed in his mission, not some honey trap.

He hid for so long that some statutes of limitations slipped and the Swedes dropped the case. And people want to move on with their lives.
But the allegations were legit from day one.
This is who he is.

 

[ann post]

Johnny Depp trial: how the judge ruled on 14 alleged assaults

Twelve of 14 allegations by Amber Heard found to be ‘proved to the civil standard’

www.theguardian.com

What I meant in both cases is that many people will side with a male celeb and very readily hate any woman going against him.

I just read through that. I think my at the time reaction was that they are both terrible people and it shouldn't be a public pinata to talk about domestic abuse in the way people talk about brigerton or whatever. I take your point on board anywhoo fair enough - depp hits women.

For the record I've hated amanda palmer for years though. Looking at Gaiman From a male gaze point of view there really is a cut off point with age once you hit a certain number of years - I don't think Gaiman is ever going to justify that stuff to be honest. half your age plus seven like....*

I think maybe it might be closer to JK rowling 2.0 - people have a very close relationship with the books and they don't immediately want to live with the idea that the books came from someone they would wildly disagree with in reality on fundamental things.

 

[ann post]

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I can't find a furter source for this beyond tweets

 

[ann post]

Looking at Gaiman From a male gaze point of view there really is a cut off point with age once you hit a certain number of years... .....half your age plus seven like....*

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[Deadmanposting]

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I dunno, we may not approve but these people are living different lives.

This lady is some up & coming Youtuber or whatever, not some inegnue out of her depth.
Maguire is a notably horrible person, but everything is seemingly consensual here. He's not her boss, she's not a dope.
I would guess that both these adults understand what they have to offer each other in this situation. Let them cook. I hope her Q score does numbers off this.

I may be an agent of the patriarchy, but I'm also trying not to take a second every time the internet asks me to be mad about something.
There's currency here for everyone from the Daily Mail to Twitter in showcasing this pairing for outrage.

 

[ann post]

Aye I get what you are saying. Adults gonna adult and all.

But also like the thought of going out with someone who's offset by more than a generation is kinda mad - what the fuck would you be chattin baout like. Taylor swift ERA's tour meets 'well there was this guy called kurt cobain who died a decade before you were born but I was like, your age at the time.....

 

[ann post]

 

[Unicron]

Maguire is a notably horrible person,

?? Dish

 

[Deadmanposting]

?? Dish

He's the basis for the prick in Molly's Game

 

[Unicron]

He's the basis for the prick in Molly's Game

Oh right, I haven't seen that. The only "based on a real person" character I'd heard about from that was Michael Cera being some sort of secret degenerate gambler IRL

 

[Anthony]

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[rettucs]

‘Sadistic and manipulative’ ex-Spandau Ballet singer guilty of rape

Ross Davidson, who was in band between 2017 and 2019 as Ross Wild, also guilty of sexual assault against two women

www.theguardian.com

 

[therealjohnny]

Was Albini a wrong un (as suggestedin the comments)?

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[hydromancer]

Because of the very ancient typewriter review of Sotos magazine? I wouldn't think so more likely that Albini came across or was familiar with early Industrial and PE from England which would sometimes be just a little bit on the controversial side. Whitehouse had there own label which released this back in 1982.

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Sotos own album Buyers Market is on youtube btw and I notice Albini has the production credit of the last song by Sotos on the mummy and daddy album by Whitehouse which is on bandcamp. Which is not all that surprising really if you think about how much music and groups he must have been involved with.
I'd imagine Page and Plant would be nice guys if you ever met them I haven't myself.

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

Because of the very ancient typewriter review of Sotos magazine?

Did you ever read that review? It is really gross, I get that he’s not the same person now (erm, I mean before he died) as he was back in the 80s but the glee in his description of photos of raped children deserves a shitload more criticism than he actually got.

 

[Deadmanposting]

Was Albini a wrong un (as suggestedin the comments)?

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The main suggestion seems to be that Rolf Harris was a bit of a didgeridoo

Can't see any Albini sticky shade in there

 

[Deadmanposting]

What is "making an indecent image"? I honestly have no idea.

Like if you send a Whatsapp image, that's making an image?

All the exchanges in this piece seems to be the newsreader telling this guy NOT to send underage stuff, but clearly he fucking liked it or he wouldn't have taken 100s of photos and videos off of him
Including it seems a video of some poor young boy that was categorised as "the worst"

And some poor fucker has to categorise every single one of these things?
What a world we have built with all this technology

Huw Edwards pleads guilty to making indecent images of children

Former BBC News presenter admitted three counts at Westminster magistrates court

www.theguardian.com