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Well, I accept that you need to start playing hurling at around the age of five to be any good at it.egg_ said:Billy, c'mon dude. Hurling isn't soccer - you need to build up a certain level of skill before you can even begin to play it, and you need a huge area to play it in. It's strictly amateur, and to get to the top levels requires a huge committment to a career that pays only in "glory".
egg_ said:And anyway, here, even if the games were simple to play, why on earth should the GAA try and export them? I honestly can't think of a single reason
kirstie said:correct me if I'm wrong. but don't london play in some GAA league?
billygannon said:It is an anti-Irish thread!
The problem with a lot of Irish people is that they think they're loved everywhere, but think it's acceptable to take the piss out of anyone because of their nationality. Fair enough, it's generally done in a light-hearted manner, but it can make for a unwelcome and uncomfortable environment for people who aren't Irish.
billygannon said:Most people here have some connection with Ireland, hence the Irish-bating. If this were an English indie music message board, or Spanish board, it'd probably have criticisms of English people or Spanish people being unwelcome to foreigners.
kirstie said:look how popular irish dancing is - globally.
Well, of course I didn't mean all Irish people do that.Squiggle said:Again with the sweeping generalisations. Not all Irish people do that.
Em... there are plenty of Irish people who'll take their cultural bias with them wherever they go.Squiggle said:And at least the Irish are generally not considered to belong among the many nations who take their cultural bias with them when they go travelling. It is horrendously uncomfortalbe to be travelling with someone who complains about how "foreign" everything is while travelling through Europe, Asia or wherever.
From what I understand, the British Empire never went near Italy, or Brazil, or Spain, or France, or Romania, or Argentina. All of these are countries where rugby and football are played by loads of people.Squiggle said:Yes, I understand that. But I still feel that the point has been missed. The comments about the GAA for example. One could respond by saying that the reason that so many nations play Rugby or Football has quite a bit to do with the British Colonial Empire, while Ireland's attitude to GAA has to do with the times when playing it was liable to get you arrested or beaten up.
Squiggle said:At the end of the day I fail to see how it is relevant to the point at hand that Jane has been upset by people who are either taking jokes a little too far or deliberately causing offence.
Jane, best thing to do - either smile and walk away or simply say "I'm sorry, but I find your comment offensive"
billygannon said:She should just tell whoever gives her guff about being American that they're a tosser and then kick them in the balls.
But there was always the option of defecting to rugby league ... same with track and field, these are "career" sports (even if they don't pay well), whereas GAA games are not (and FWIW I think that's right and proper)billygannon said:Up until about five or ten years ago, rugby union was a strictly amateur sport ...
I don't think you understand the nature of the GAA Billy. It's a community-based organisation, y'know. Nobody made a decision to not export the games, it's just that presumably no-one who's involved is interested. I sure wouldn't be interestedI can't understand the logic behind not exporting it or promoting it in other countries.
billygannon said:The relevance of my points about Ireland is that Jane was slagged off by Irish people. My girlfriend has suffered the same, if not worse, abuse. It's something I'm embarrassed about, being an Irishman and it's something I think that Ireland should actually address.
The FA in England is a community-based organisation. The FA Cup shows this when you see ordinary club teams from local villages all competing to play in the same competition as the big Premiership teams. It's exactly the same - and, dare I say it, perhaps the GAA somewhat modelled itself on the FA.egg_ said:I don't think you understand the nature of the GAA Billy. It's a community-based organisation, y'know.
That kind of says it all about those involved. I mean for fuck's sake, the whole business of not letting other sports being played on Croke Park - it's just ridiculous.egg_ said:Nobody made a decision to not export the games, it's just that presumably no-one who's involved is interested. I sure wouldn't be interested
Squiggle said:Did I imagine it or are there actually going to be some International football matches played at croker next year?
johnnystress said:Like a Northern Ireland team versus a team from the Republic?
probably
Squiggle said:Did I imagine it or are there actually going to be some International football matches played at croker next year?
Billy, please. This just isn't true. Soccer is a business with a community-based element. That's a pretty fundamental differencebillygannon said:The FA in England is a community-based organisation ... it's exactly the same
What? You think ordinary members of the GAA are xenophobic because none of them are arsed flying out to Hungary to try and teach the natives how to double on a ball?That kind of says it all about those involved.
This is a different issue to the promotion of GAA games abroad, but I don't really see what the big deal is about this. Number 1 it's private property, as far as I'm concerned the GAA can do what the fuck they like with it, and number 2 there's been majority support for allowing other sports use the ground for years, but you need a 2/3 majority to change certain rulesI mean for fuck's sake, the whole business of not letting other sports being played on Croke Park - it's just ridiculous.
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