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Who said about anyone calling the people with mohawks/Pistols t-shirts as dicks????
And most young people do tend to get shit faced...esp during a meet up/gig.
You can't change the world.......
Exactly to the 1st point.....
and if he was referring to overseas bands obviously they're not well known enough or popular enough.....tisn't rocket science.
I will add though I watched GBH in The Temple bar in Dorset street once with a total audience of about 12 and this was only 7 or so years ago..
i just dont under stand why drinking should be so important, i myself drink but its no big deal if i dont at a gig,
The last few years of the Winter fest gigs in Belfast have been poorly attended now I find that more vexing.....established DIY bands etc
what we need here is social centers,free gigs and all age gigs and for people to help each other...all of this will give you a cracker of a gig nomatter who's playin and a boost in the irish punk scene.
another problem is that a lot of people are on the dole, and when there are 3 gigs on in a week costing a fiver each and you only get 80 quid every two weeks it is very easy to piss it all up a wall in a night, and scrounging money off your mates gets to be a pain in the arse sometimes. i know d.i.y. punk gigs are very reasonably priced but most of my mates could drink 80 quid in carry outs over a weekend.
laverys is another problem, the bouncers and bar staff hate punks and are complete dickheads for the most part, quite a lot of us are barred, and as for the ones that arent, why would you want to go soemwhere u r not wanted and none of your mates are allowed into so you have noone to talk to , pay for the priveledge and buy ridiculously overpriced beers to cry into? unfortunately since giros shut there is no more bringing a litre of cider to a gig when ur skint. i know the sound in the front page is shit and the beer is just as expensive but at least the people working there are not just as dicky, although the new bouncers try their best to be. also you can go over and cry and mourn for giros which is now "the garage" a sauna for homosexual business men to bum each other in
bands i really wanted to see recently that i have missed because of laverys door policy : magrudergrind, the mingers, staathat and cathode,. more also but i cant remember and they let me into neuclear crusty whinger fest because the bouncers who know me werent on.
i think promoters boycotting laverys would be a good idea
i like crust a lot, so do a lot of my friends but they prefer streetpunk, when a d.i.y. streetpunk/oi! band, or a similar band on a small punk label (which i still think is cool but no doubt lots of people will not) such as intensive care, stage bottles or los fastidios come everyone will go to it. its very well giving out to spikey punks for not supporting the crust scene (cos beleive me i wish more people went to these gigs) but i dont see certain people at many local band gigs or touring streetpunk band gigs,maybe these bands arent d.i.y. enough for them or maybe i am blinded from the hairspray in my eyes.
social centre. this is something i am very interested in. the grants that helpedd giros have dried up these days to pay for politicians 70,000 a year salary, the arts budget in northern ireland is fucking pitiful, so if people want to do this again in belfast it is going to be an even harder uphill struggle, i have heard lots of rumours about new centres, money for it etc. in the last few years but it has all come to nothing and i think its about time "we" organised, got together, and see what the craic is. there are a lot of problems to overcome but i reckon it ios doable to some extent if not to the glory of the warzone centre. a lockup somewhere with "on the d/l gigs" would be a good start no?
1) But ur missing the point, there are not enough Punks in Dublin for this to happen. Glue is also more expensive then the cheap lager from the offies too!
2) Dublin gigs and in particular The Lower Deck are well attended as Mackle pointed out people are more open minded down south.
3) Internet is for opinions and advertising gigs !ninjaaaa
Is it that hard to get the (irish)dole if you're from the north? you'd probably be laughin once you get a mate to give ya proof of address...
If there was a social centre (or it could work with somewhere like the lower deck) it would be an idea (not saying good or bad ) to have local band only gigs, where the bands would pay for nothing and a small door charge could be put into a fund to maybe cut a bit off the door tax for when touring bands come around... and maybe some other fund raising events for the fund? Obviously, you'd have to figure out some way of distributing said fund fairly.
If there was a social centre (or it could work with somewhere like the lower deck) it would be an idea (not saying good or bad ) to have local band only gigs, where the bands would pay for nothing and a small door charge could be put into a fund to maybe cut a bit off the door tax for when touring bands come around... and maybe some other fund raising events for the fund? Obviously, you'd have to figure out some way of distributing said fund fairly.
its cool down in galway all the gigs are packed out well attendence lately as been low
but still a good crowd and the main reason for that is they are free gigs with exception for the odd one and even at that there is a really good crowd
selling zines/compilations at those gigs could be another idea then? Donate the profits to zee fund.
I'm interested in trying to get the "Rancid/Pistols Mohawks" punks into the scene in Dublin cos I'd say it'd be pretty hard to find out about DIY gigs, yeah sure there's usually a few flyers around town but not enough, and who's gonna go see a band they've never heard of. I found out about the first gig I went to from Boards fucking .ie. I think going around Temple Bar/Central Bank handing out flyers to gigs would be a good idea, show these kids they can see good live music and not be raped by BLAST.
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