Rogue
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Does it cost to attend this thing?
Can I get a support slot?
Can I get a support slot?
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it's all freeDoes it cost to attend this thing?
Can I get a support slot?
Before i go any further, I'm running Vista 64bit Ultimate Edition on a 64bit dual core AMD 4200+ machine with 2gb ram & an nVidia 7900GT video card, so i've got all the bells & whistles turned on, which means that some of this won't apply to lower spec machines or other versions of Vista.Pete, compared to what? Were you an Windows XP Pro user previously yeah? I always thought 2000 was underrated.
Anyway, other than this aqua (?) theme, or say aesthetics in general, what's nice about it? Would you think, if you were a XP user, its worth actually buying or would you wait till you bought a new machine, and got given the OS with it? Have they actually changed where stuff is, like how you get to Network Neighbourhood or whatever, or did they just bolt on the new UI instead of the XP one?
For myself, honestly I dont think anything they have done could get near what I have available to me using Linux, and I dont think I would change over unless there was something fucking phenomenal out there, but I would sort of like to know what they have made better from their previous yoke. Other than "security"
Edit... Actually, if I buy a laptop next week, would it come with Vista, yeah? Or does it depend on the laptop? How does that work, does MS change it or does Sony? I have to get one for someone in Ireland. I could monkey about with it on the plane on the way over. See what the story is with it then.
...it automatically detected & installed my SATA controllers so no fucking around with driver floppies.
Oh and apparently if you've got a 64bit CPU but are currently running a 32bit version of Windows (which would be most people I think), you can't upgrade to 64bit Vista. You need to do a clean install.
They seem hell-bent on destroying the humble USB key as well. Worried about your intellectual property? Hire people you can trust.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
One thing i have noticed so far is no crashes, apps will crash but they dont take windows with it.
As Funk said. The big thing (probably ever since Colin Farrell did it in The Recruit) is the theft of intellectual copyright, etc. I say, hire people you trust/treat them well/Get them to sign the Official Secrets Act (as in Govt./My Case). So the USB key is the enemy. Also things like not allowing copy and paste (all shite. People can still type).
I attended a seminar in DCU on disabilities yesterday. One of the things displayed was a portable version of software for people with reading difficulties. Brilliant because they can bring it with them anywhere and use it anywhere. And, although, Vista will enable it to be used, if it's included by policy, you know the difficulties in getting some things approved in most IT Departments. We're a bit more enlightened here in my job, but I know a lot of other people who just wouldn't allow such a thing.
The benefits are really negligible if real-world examples are to be believed. I can't even repeat the shite they showed as examples but needless to say it was in the effort of flying windows rather than helpful. One thing about fancier graphics etc., is the need to upgrade machines. More so than when XP was released.
And for bitlocker to work to "protect" your data is your laptop is stolen, you'll need a motherboard with a chip on it that is way open to the whole lack of civil liberties abuse that Intel tried a few years back. All of a sudden it's acceptable? They admit that third party developers will be able to lock their DRM into it, as well as the ability to track your use. Thereby flying in the face of all advice re rights to privacy, etc.
It's a nightmare.
But it looks nice. Not as nice as OSX.
And it's so obviously not ready and therefore ready to be ripped to pieces by the hacker community.
They said that about XP as well. And that was a myth. As you say, give it a few months.
seconded - i had a VIP badge, so i got to meet the chap, really just to shake hands with him.Neil Armstrong is King.
seconded - i had a VIP badge, so i got to meet the chap, really just to shake hands with him.
my main impression i took away from the event was "so, you'll need a new OS, new hardware, new mail client, new mail backend, new office suite, and new collaboration backend to use all that?"
i.e. it'll cost you probably two grand minimum per machine...
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