U.S. Visa Waiver To End In January (1 Viewer)

[Umfufu]

It was reported in the Irish Times today that, from January 2009, we'll have to submit our details to U.S. homeland security 72 hours before our flight.

They should just build a big fucking wall around the States & tell us all to fuck off up our terrorist holes!

 

[Mormon Nailer]

Don't Spain already have a similar setup, and those cunts are IN the EU

 

[Umfufu]

Don't remember ever doing anything like that when I was going to Spain.

 

[jane]

It was reported in the Irish Times today that, from January 2009, we'll have to submit our details to U.S. homeland security 72 hours before our flight.

They should just build a big fucking wall around the States & tell us all to fuck off up our terrorist holes!

It's really fucked. It seems like one of those fucked up things that is meant to remind us of the WAR ON TERROR so that we won't vote for the wussy anti-war candidates this election year.

It's not quite an end to the visa waiver programme, but the worry is the probably increase in the number of people who will have hassle if someone else with their name is on the shitlist.

Aer Lingus has been preparing us for this for about two years now, though. They send you those emails about a few weeks before you fly asking you to 'supply your details in advance' or whatever, to 'save time' or something.

It's fucked. What's it going to do except create more lists of names and an ill-managed system that just fucks with perfectly innocent people?

Ugh.

 

[ratmonkey]

Don't Spain already have a similar setup, and those cunts are IN the EU

Which applies to flights originating outside the EU. Or possibly Schengen, which thanks to those fuckers across the water to the east, we won't be joining any time soon.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

They were talking on Liveline about the difficulties facing the Irish illegals in the US with the post-911 restrictions.
Some real sad stories.
They had a guy on from Chicago, I think, saying how it was very tough that he couldn't go to his brother's funeral as he would have to leave his entire life in the U.S. behind were he to attend. Very difficult for the family.
He then goes on to say that moving home to Ireland is not an option as the Irish government has 'the country ruined' for the 'regular Irish man' with letting so many immigrants in. They take the jobs, lower the wages and get a 'free pass' - including welfare and buggies (plural) for their children!
The irony was lost on him alone, I think.

http://dynamic.rte.ie/quickaxs/209-rte-liveline.smil
21:25 in

 

[plug]

in short: fuck him.

 

[classic seanc]

Don't remember ever doing anything like that when I was going to Spain.

It exists alright.
Ryanair put a big warning on all their flights itinery's; "If ticket is for Spain then you need to etc etc.".
Good thing too. Had they not asked for my info I would have Jihaded the fuck out of them.

 

[SONYMEGADRIVE]

sure why would oyu ever want to leave ireland anyway?

all these highs and lows, i'm living for all these highs and lows i'm livin for all these highs and lows, i'm living for, all these highs and low-ohhhs

 

[Lili Marlene]

apparently i'm still on the no-fly list for several american airlines


or at least some jerk with my name who makes it inconvenient for me to travel

 

[SONYMEGADRIVE]

John Rambo?

 

[Scientician 0.8]

Fuck that for a story anyway. I can spend my tourist dollars in Canada from now on.

 

[killy kill]

apparently i'm still on the no-fly list for several american airlines


or at least some jerk with my name who makes it inconvenient for me to travel

he is john?

 

[Mormon Nailer]

John Rambo?

John Hinckley?

 

[wild_cat]

Hmmm.. I have a feeling that might have been a relation of mine.......

Cant seem to find it.....

oh well.

 

[muffin]

Before you travel now though you still need to give them a fair bit of info. You have to submit yr hotel name and address,details of your journey and whatnot so it's just an extension of that isn't it?

 

[zebra heart attack]

It's all worth it to visit the U.S!

From an actual email I got at work about the dangers of international travel:

...what's more, the privacy protections American's enjoy under the U.S. Constitution don't exist in foreign countries, giving local intelligence and security services considerable opportunity to target U.S. visitors. Some of the activities that may be used against travelers, even by seemingly "friendly" countries, include:

• Surveilling their movements to see who they meet
• Surreptitiously entering hotel rooms and looking through the contents of personal belongings/briefcases
• "Tapping" telephones and fax machines
• Audio or video recording hotel rooms, conference rooms, dining facilities, and restaurants
• Monitoring email and Internet use
• Debriefing host escorts, tour guides, cleaning staff, and interpreters
• Recording conversations on national airlines
• Downloading information from laptops and PDAs when left in hotel rooms, such as during meals

 

[RSJ]

Was thinking maybe bush is throwing this in before he leaves so if the next president keeps it, it'll end up costing the yanks loads doing all the paperwork to admit or refuse people, and keeping track of everyone, whereas if they get rid of it, people will be up in arms about them not caring about US security. A bit of a fuck you and goodbye from the outgoing president type thing.

 

[Umfufu]

Does this mean that we won't have to fill in any forms at all when we're on the plane?


Mightn't be too bad after all.

 

[Dromed]

I put through my ESTA details and was given a number, but you still have to fill in green immigration slip and get questioned about the usual when you go through immigration control - what was the point of this if nothing seems to have changed?!