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[sandra]

Hey,
Theres a meeting on next Wed 14th to discuss the proposed street theatre action and any other ideas people might have for the EU justice ministers meeting being held on 22/23 Jan. Meeting on at 7.30 pm. Call 0861770439 for info. Everyone welcome...

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The six month insurrection begins here!

Calling all anti capitalists, libertarians, anarchists, and theatre enthusiasts!​

If "all the world is a stage", then the presidency of the EU is a complete farce. The Irish Government is a tragedy, and Bertie Ahern (the Irish Taoiseach or Prime Minister) is the king of comedy, having taken over the title from the joker Silvio Berlusconi. Perhaps Bertie was indulging in a spot of ironic satire when he said he was against a two-tier Europe on RTE radio recently. Laughable when you consider he has no problem operating a two-tier society in his own country, and day after day his right wing cohorts are content to act in the most oppressive manner possible.

To "celebrate" the European "justice" ministers descending on Dublin on January 22nd, with all their staged excessive pomp and splendour, we, the people of this land, have decided to put on a special street theatre show for them at Dublin Castle. This way, the visiting ministers will hopefully be educated in the true methods and means of Irish "justice", and everyone in the streets can participate too.

So for your viewing pleasure, we present...

"No Justice, No Peace"

A Street Play in Three Acts

Act I - The Garda
Act II - Shannon
Act III - The State

On Thursday January 22nd 2004.

Exact time and location to be confirmed closer to the date. Please check back at the related link below:
http://www.geocities.com/eufortress

At present we are auditioning for the major parts - but we need hundreds, nay, thousands if it permits, of extras to play the part of THE PEOPLE. Previous acting experience is a plus but ultimately not neccessary. A sense of humour, a dash of frivolity, and a willingness to confront the State on creative ideological grounds is all that you will need.

Why have we decided to hold our street theatre action at the EU Justice Ministers meeting? For us, the concept of "justice" and policing in Ireland have become one in the minds of the State. Successive right wing governments down through the years have continually pursued oppressive policing policies, giving a free hand to the Gardaí to act as they please with impunity. The State fails to understand concepts of social "justice" and act accordingly, while at the same time enforcing increasingly draconian laws to pacify and subdue the people's anger and hostility towards a corrupt system.

The Gardaí have long ceased to be anything resembling a civil police force. They are tools of a right wing government that seeks to imprison as many dissenters as possible. They are the jackboot stormtroopers who blindly carry out the State's orders. The State uses prison to sweep its enormous shortcomings in society under the rug. It then seeks to hand over responsibility of these institutions to unaccountable private multinational security companies, often with appalling human rights records, so it can absolve itself from any injustices perpetrated within the prison walls.

Join us on Thursday January 22nd to watch and participate in the short street theatre presentation, "No Justice, No Peace".

Further reading:

The Morris Tribunal (set up to investigate Garda corruption in Donegal)
http://www.morristribunal.ie/

The Barr Tribunal (set up to investigate shooting of John Carthy in Abbeylara)
http://www.barrtribunal.ie/

Garda investigating themselves after RTS 2002 attacked, refuse to co-operate with inquiry into their actions
http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/wsm/ws/2002/71/rts.html
http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?id=18383
http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?id=18260

Irish Penal Reform Trust on prison privitisation
http://www.penal-reform.ie/privatisation.htm

Report on conditions in Mountjoy Prison
http://www.socialisterna.org/talkshop/messages/4201.html

http://www.geocities.com/eufortress

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[spiritualtramp]

" If "all the world is a stage", then the presidency of the EU is a complete farce. The Irish Government is a tragedy, and Bertie Ahern (the Irish Taoiseach or Prime Minister) is the king of comedy, having taken over the title from the joker Silvio Berlusconi. Perhaps Bertie was indulging in a spot of ironic satire when he said he was against a two-tier Europe on RTE radio recently. Laughable when you consider he has no problem operating a two-tier society in his own country, and day after day his right wing cohorts are content to act in the most oppressive manner possible."


excuse me but what the fuck are you on about ? most oppressive manner possible ? what , are there people being shot at on the streets ? you obviously don't know much about human rights abuses if you call the guards losing the head on dame street , arresting a bunch of lefties at a ppp protest or arresting people at anti war demos as the "most oppressive manner possible ". are you confused and fantasising that you live under pinochet ?

"Successive right wing governments down through the years have continually pursued oppressive policing policies, giving a free hand to the Gardaí to act as they please with impunity. The State fails to understand concepts of social "justice" and act accordingly, while at the same time enforcing increasingly draconian laws to pacify and subdue the people's anger and hostility towards a corrupt system. "

what right wing governments ? kindly name each and every right wing government ireland has had please . which draconian laws have been introduced ? kindly name them .
I find paranoid shite like this rather amusing . I do not buy any fucker saying that ireland , with its rather excellent human rights record , is a facist state .

" The Gardaí have long ceased to be anything resembling a civil police force. They are tools of a right wing government that seeks to imprison as many dissenters as possible. They are the jackboot stormtroopers who blindly carry out the State's orders. The State uses prison to sweep its enormous shortcomings in society under the rug. It then seeks to hand over responsibility of these institutions to unaccountable private multinational security companies, often with appalling human rights records, so it can absolve itself from any injustices perpetrated within the prison walls."


until everyone stops beating their wives , battering their kids , raping people , going out murdering and stabbing people I'm perfectly content with having the guards around . in an ideal world we wouldn't need them , but sadly we do. I don't think they are "jackboot stormtroopers , carrying out the states orders" .

go to burma or north korea for fucks sake , you'll be pretty happy to return to "facist" ireland .

 

[nlgbbbblth]

The Gardaí have long ceased to be anything resembling a civil police force. They are tools of a right wing government that seeks to imprison as many dissenters as possible. They are the jackboot stormtroopers who blindly carry out the State's orders. The State uses prison to sweep its enormous shortcomings in society under the rug. It then seeks to hand over responsibility of these institutions to unaccountable private multinational security companies, often with appalling human rights records, so it can absolve itself from any injustices perpetrated within the prison walls.

"uses prison to sweep its enormous shortcomings in society under the rug"

bollocks. the majority of people in prison deserve to be there. they have committed crimes and have been punished accordingly.

will there be fire-eaters and jugglers at this? -
I hate jugglers and fire-eaters

CUNTS

 

[redflaremist]

Either of the dissenting posters see the Prime Time last night on RTE and the ensuing debate in the media this morning? Do you still think the Garda are great?

 

[nlgbbbblth]

Either of the dissenting posters see the Prime Time last night on RTE and the ensuing debate in the media this morning? Do you still think the Garda are great?

didn't see it. TV on the blink
never said the Garda were great either

 

[pete]

I saw it. Didn't see anything on it I wasn't already aware of. Expected to see more than the same three or four known stories of assault (but dramatised!) but i guess they had to stick to cases that had actually gone to court (even if they were settled beforehand).

Seems like everyone knows someone that's received unwarranted slaps from some cops. No surprise that some cops are pricks. So are some teachers / judges / plumbers / people in general. No real surprise that other cops won't rat on each other either.

I was more concerned with the perjury / falsification of documents and complete lack of investigation to be honest...

Still don't think that the cops are a "jackboot stormtrooper" force. But i
still don't trust them very much either.

Oh and someone told me tonight that one of the people on it was an immediate relation of a Westie. Not suggesting that it makes it alright, but it might help put it in context.

Here's the show : http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0108/primetime/primetime56_1a.smil

 

[spiritualtramp]

Either of the dissenting posters see the Prime Time last night on RTE and the ensuing debate in the media this morning? Do you still think the Garda are great?

nope , didn't see it . I was snoozing .

I never said the guards were great. I know they have plenty of faults , but I'm glad there is policing in the country . I'd fucking ring them in a flash if my gaff got robbed .

what is the alternative to the police you suggest? and don't give me that self policing shit because it doesn't work . not everybody can behave themselves .

I do think the country needs a garda ombudsman , but I find comments referring to the gardai as "jackboot stormtroopers" and that they conduct themselves in the "most oppressive manner possible " to be somewhat laughable and rather insulting to the millions of people in the world that actually are living in a police state . I found the first post of this thread to be totally hysterical and offensive .


Isn't RTE a propaganda tool of this so called evil facist government ? why were you watching it ?

 

[Little Angel]

>Oh and someone told me tonight that one of the people on it was an >immediate relation of a Westie.

Which person?

My favourite piece was the cop who is also on the Kilkenny hurling team telling some poor chap that "some big black fella" would "take him up the Gary Glitter."

 

[pete]

>Oh and someone told me tonight that one of the people on it was an >immediate relation of a Westie.

Which person?

Soooo not going there.

My favourite piece was the cop who is also on the Kilkenny hurling team telling some poor chap that "some big black fella" would "take him up the Gary Glitter."

There's a thing now. Allegedly, the recipient of that line of police "questioning" was an alleged known criminal. Dunno about anyone else, but I find it hard to sympathise with him. Boo hoo the nasty police man said nasty things.

I mean it's hardly a major civil rights abuse, is it?

 

[redflaremist]

>> Oh and someone told me tonight that one of the people on it was an
>> immediate relation of a Westie.

> Which person?

Shane Coates is the leader of the Westies in Blanchardstown. His name was above Christian Coates' on the warrant (who was handcuffed behind his back and swung around the room by Garda, then punched while winded and lost consciousness - spent two days in hospital recovering). Not sure if the two are related. Dont think so.

Someone else made the remark about self-policing. I'd like to see the notion of "police" abolised, but I'd also like to see the conditions in a society which necessitates the existence of police abolished too (and first). Apologies for being an idealist but I think when social exclusion and a variety (take your pick) of other ills are cured then people dont and wont commit crimes.

 

[pete]

Not sure if the two are related. Dont think so.

I'm not sure either - but if it had been the right person, would anyone bat an eyelid?

Someone else made the remark about self-policing. I'd like to see the notion of "police" abolised, but I'd also like to see the conditions in a society which necessitates the existence of police abolished too (and first). Apologies for being an idealist but I think when social exclusion and a variety (take your pick) of other ills are cured then people dont and wont commit crimes.

What about crimes caused by greed? What about opportunistic crime? What about crimes of passion? Will dealing with social exclusion and other ills stop people from committing these types of crimes?

 

[broken arm]

Apologies for being an idealist but I think when social exclusion and a variety (take your pick) of other ills are cured then people dont and wont commit crimes.

thats not idealism really. There is a new understanding within public policy circles of the need to address 'the problems in society' in a holistic manner. Basically its treating issues such as exclusion, poverty, public health etc. in a way that bring about positive changes in people, their communities and society as a whole. i have even heard bertie mention the principles of social capital etc - http://www.infed.org/biblio/social_capital.htm -

an example of this is the institute of public health in ireland. They are concerned with the issue that affect public health - anything from poverty cycles to planning issues - and how public health can be improved in ways beyond reliance on medical intervention when a problem arises i.e. hospitals as the only health solution. The same principle can be applied to crime etc and the systems that are working to create a civil society i.e. prisons and the courts.

rather than brushing of your ideal as something improbable, think about it and look at the realistic ways it can be brought about. yea.

 

[broken arm]

What about crimes caused by greed? What about opportunistic crime? What about crimes of passion? Will dealing with social exclusion and other ills stop people from committing these types of crimes?

what about musical crimes like that Blood Purge band?

First you have to accept that the current systems do little to prevent crime and then look at the complex reasons that contribute to crime and how they can be dealt with in a pragmatic way.

 

[pete]

what about musical crimes like that Blood Purge band?

First you have to accept that the current systems do little to prevent crime and then look at the complex reasons that contribute to crime and how they can be dealt with in a pragmatic way.

OK, I'm all for fixing the system, but I though that this:

I'd like to see the notion of "police" abolised, but I'd also like to see the conditions in a society which necessitates the existence of police abolished too (and first). Apologies for being an idealist but I think when social exclusion and a variety (take your pick) of other ills are cured then people dont and wont commit crimes.

Meant:

• problems in society cause crime
• fix these problems and the crimes will stop
• when the crimes stop there's no need for police

Or am i missing something?

I just don't see how this has any impact on the types of crimes i mentioned above, and so i don't see how anyone can claim that the police could be "abolished".

 

[broken arm]

I just don't see how this has any impact on the types of crimes i mentioned above, and so i don't see how anyone can claim that the police could be "abolished".

ah now, I never said that we should abolish the polis or that all jails should be closed at all. but I said it wasnt the only option to create/maintain a civil society.

 

[redflaremist]

We're meeting at the Central Bank on Dame Street at 5pm for this.

http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=63013

 

[redflaremist]

meeting up today! come along.

 

[spiritualtramp]

meeting up today! come along.

be careful you brave souls !

Successive right wing governments down through the years have continually pursued oppressive policing policies - I'm very afraid those "facists" might run over you with tanks , or the "jackboot stormtroopers" may shoot you all dead .

 

[pete]

http://www.rte.ie/news/2004/0122/templebar.html