Kermit McDermott
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The Trouble with Contemporary Music Criticism | Article | Tiny Mix Tapes | Page 1
I think there's some interesting ideas in the main part but felt there were some argumentative leaps made in the final three concluding parts.
Some intersting stuff around the democratisation of production but not consumption. I've also heard other ideas elsewhere on technological changes in the consumption of music but less so in it's production, wondering how the two combine.
It also didn't link into wider yet related social issues, but I guess that's not what the article was trying to be.
With regard to 'Retromania' - the idea of aping a past form is too weak by itself to stand up - pilfering is ok if it's in the service of a great conviction. Record-collection rock is killing rock.
I make a distinction between the two.I thought we were calling it Google-rock?
Please do explain, I'm not sure I see a huge difference here.I make a distinction between the two.
Please do explain, I'm not sure I see a huge difference here.
Unless you mean we're all so busy listening to more and more music we don't leave time to make it? Which is probably true of all the arts.
Record-collection rock has to do with how music is made, it predates the internet - 'Google rock' or whatever you might like to call it has more to do with how music is used and consumed, the portals, pundits and technologies, the information overload and, subsequently, how all that is informing music-making.
Yeah that's the differentiation I'm trying to make. There's nothing wrong with taking influence from records but there's a cynicism in a lot of the stuff around now working on decent budgets at mid sized labels.What's the problem with record collection rock? Should I be taking influence from records I don't own or have I missed the point?
We are, behind your back obviously.I've heard neither of those bands so guess that's where my failing is. I was worried yous all might be slagging the bands I play in.
What's the problem with record collection rock? Should I be taking influence from records I don't own or have I missed the point?
I'll go as far as to say that RC Rockers are good at making something that sounds like music, and that's more or less all they're attempting. It's a lack of conviction that my conviction-ometer can measure to the nearest millionth of a derp.
It's all subjective though - and bear in mind a person can hear far more in a record than was ever intended by the artistes. It's not a matter of hard fact - I'm certain I'm missing loads in new music because my confidence in modern artists is so low. It's like there's a horrendous smell or a sick greenish light that just makes me think 'garbage' and 'sickness' all the time. Or else I'm simply right ...
It's anyone who is slavishly imitating or overly referring to something else without adding to the story - at any time you'll hear a bunch of bands at a show and be unable to get past the bands they're trying to emulate without saying anything particularly strong - musically or otherwise. This goes across the genresI'm still confused by the language you're using. Are you referring to mostly what we might call mainstream music or across the board? What's your definition of music? And would these Record collection rockers basically be what I'd call derivative hipster shite?
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