Minor Pleasures (10 Viewers)

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+1 to @pete

FFS @ann post we're not children, we know someone is paying for @Deadmanposting 's bounty bars.

 

[magicbastarder]

You work in adult disneyland,a fuck wider society it's great in here sorta place? Lets not let that money end up in general taxation. Parties for mexicans!! (but only the ones with jobs! (only our jobs mind)) Services for kids (if their parents have jobs, here).

(Backs slowly out of thread)

 

[magicbastarder]

In our place, they took away the 'free' coffee machines and put ones in which cost 50c a coffee. Progress!

 

[therealjohnny]

Was it?
Ok
Well it's all money well spent so.
Good for me.


Hero tag please

I was oversimplifying, but it's in the gist of the principal that the boss would have no money if you didn't earn it for him. Ergo you paid for the coffee and treats etc

I am also a hero

 

[ann post]

TL/DR

Anyway other stuff happens in company accounts in between the “takes money from customer” and “pays employee wages” bits. Profits. Dividends. Taxes. Tax write offs/write downs. Training. “Investing in people”. Not everything a company pays for comes out of the employee’s end.

REALLY? I NEVER HEARD OF Such things. Thanks for introducing me to earth it seems temporate.

@egg_ I KNOW. fun to pretend we are for a while each day at work though right #glee

I never thought thumped would be a good spot to get digs for pointing out bullshit like this when i see it

 

[pete]

The workers control the means of production of mini bounty bars.

 

[Deadmanposting]

A: Those things are not free, none of them are. They have to be budgeted, staffed and carried out and all the money from that is somewhere along the line between the product/service you make as a whole and your wages. My main issue is that you are calling things that cost money free. It's not really a complex line.

But to look at all nice things you mention so you can have a sense of community in the workplace that you listed, for staff right? You work in adult disneyland,a fuck wider society it's great in here sorta place? Lets not let that money end up in general taxation. Parties for mexicans!! (but only the ones with jobs! (only our jobs mind)) Services for kids (if their parents have jobs, here). Free gyms that definitley were just lying about someplace and nobody has to pay for!!! (but no gym for anyone who lives in the same area as you work!!

You get it, right? My complaint is about the use of the word 'free'.

Your expansions are about two tier society.

We have tons of volunteer opportunities for all sorts of community programmes. i take part in them.
We are actively recruiting and seeking union placement for people in disadvantaged communities and situations. We do work in the local schools for "free". The idea being that we're part of the community and we should help raise it up.
HR is moving away from requiring a degree to work in certain positions.
There's a community gym with a pool down the road. I use their pool.

But more importantly, what do i call stuff i get in work that i don't pay for? Complimentary? Laid on? Paid for by the sweat of my brow? If there's a big pile of chocolate there and i don't have to pay for it, I usually just say it's free.

Honestly, the situation is far closer to them being cacking we'll leave and they keep bumping our wages every year and giving us all this stuff. Limiting turnover and employee retention is a big driver.

 

[ann post]

The workers control the means of production of mini bounty bars.

There is an interesting socialist / not socialist historical version of all this*

*so long as you gave up your religious freedom

Sion Mills - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The model village which was created by the Herdman family also incorporated recreational amenities for locals such as a community centre, cricket, bowling and football clubs. These amenities can still be seen today for example, the Sion Mills cricket tradition, Sion Mills was used as the venue to celebrate when the Irish team beat a west Indian touring team in July 1969. The Herdman brothers were religious, and built Churches. For the first 30 years James Herdman used to beat a drum to call the people to church. The church was a converted building in the village were everyone gathered

 

[Deadmanposting]

ANYWAYS
It turns out that the bag of Bountys was from the bottom of the tub, and she had not been rotating them while she added new ones all year
So the bag she gave me is full of crushed and stale Bountys

Can't believe i paid for this

 

[ann post]

Honestly, the situation is far closer to them being cacking we'll leave and they keep bumping our wages every year and giving us all this stuff. Limiting turnover and employee retention is a big driver.

Why, has some other place got better free sweets?

 

[nuke terrorist]

If you don't drink tea or coffee or eat Bounty Bars* what do you get?

The only thing I know about Sion Mills is LOI legend Jonathan Speak comes from there. He was so sick of how his old clubs treated him that he hasn't been interested in soccer for a long time although he follows other sports. Prefers concentrating on his grand kids.

*I hate junk food and I constantly have to clean up the mess of it. Even my nephews wouldn't eat Bounty Bars if nothing else was left.

 

[pete]

There is an interesting socialist / not socialist historical version of all this*

*so long as you gave up your religious freedom

Sion Mills - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I think apple/Foxconn have those in china too.

 

[ann post]

But more importantly, what do i call stuff i get in work that i don't pay for? Complimentary? Laid on? Paid for by the sweat of my brow? If there's a big pile of chocolate there and i don't have to pay for it, I usually just say it's free.

You can actually just say we bought them.

Like I get all the staff retention / PR stuff with the outreach - the generalised goal though is to not pay tax if the money can be diverted internally (see team building weekender industry for further reading) but be seen to be doing a load of good stuff so that nobody really gives a shit?

Like i'm not holding anyone personally responsible here, it's just an accounting thing.

But you know, in the wake of the trump years an all that, i sorta idealise about a world where words actually have meanings.

 

[seanc]

It's more (as per fucking usual) the use of language driving me up the wall.

i.e.

'I got some stuff free at work'

when the actual event that takes place is

'someone in my company is paid to take money that could be my wages or security and spend it on stuff i didn't ask for and my only option in the transaction to accept the stuff, or watch it be thrown away, it is 2023'

How about I take money out of the thumped sub before it goes to #admin for all his time and effort and spend it on bacon without asking if ye's want it or not? It's free!! yayy!! Don't worry i'll fuck in it the bin if it's not part of your diet. Nobody is oblidged to take the free bacon.

Morning everyone.

"Free" is a misnomer alright.

But I have a friend in footy/events world who has a detailed rant about the gains of feeding staff. Marginal cost for an obvious increase in productivity, basically. Also, treating people decently, but that's a side thought.

In my works, I rarely get fed, other people do, even though me and my guys are the ones burning the calories, it's infuriating.

Last season we got a proper dinner before every game. Then this season they said "no more". Apparently the catering company were charging the club £55/head for dinner, as in sausage and mash, lasagne or similar. The journo's and photographers still get free food, and it is free to them, because they're mercenaries.

Dunno, it's baffling and short sighted not to feed your staff. AND YOUR CONTRACTORS. While I have a separate rant about the American way of giving you food and phone and laptop and then thinking they "own" your every waking moment.

But that's enough for now. You must remember I'm typing with one hand here (No cormcolash, not like that).

 

[therealjohnny]

There is an interesting socialist / not socialist historical version of all this*

*so long as you gave up your religious freedom

Sion Mills - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I read somewhere that one of the Herdmans used the mounds of rotting horse carcasses as a source of methane to light the trenches in The Somme.

 

[ann post]

But I have a friend in footy/events world who has a detailed rant about the gains of feeding staff. Marginal cost for an obvious increase in productivity, basically. Also, treating people decently, but that's a side thought.

I'm totally fine with actually getting stuff at work. I work somewhere where 'free' stuff 'freely' makes its way overhead all day and then heads for the skip out the back. I'd love if there was reasonable food on - just like, put it on my pay thing next to the tax or whatever thats grand like.

 

[GO]

If I want free stuff at work I have to pay for it

 

[ann post]

I read somewhere that one of the Herdmans used the mounds of rotting horse carcasses as a source of methane to light the trenches in The Somme.

Road trip

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[ernesto]

If I want free stuff at work I have to pay for it

Sames

 

[Cormcolash]

"Free" is a misnomer alright.

But I have a friend in footy/events world who has a detailed rant about the gains of feeding staff. Marginal cost for an obvious increase in productivity, basically. Also, treating people decently, but that's a side thought.

In my works, I rarely get fed, other people do, even though me and my guys are the ones burning the calories, it's infuriating.

Last season we got a proper dinner before every game. Then this season they said "no more". Apparently the catering company were charging the club £55/head for dinner, as in sausage and mash, lasagne or similar. The journo's and photographers still get free food, and it is free to them, because they're mercenaries.

Dunno, it's baffling and short sighted not to feed your staff. AND YOUR CONTRACTORS. While I have a separate rant about the American way of giving you food and phone and laptop and then thinking they "own" your every waking moment.

But that's enough for now. You must remember I'm typing with one hand here (No cormcolash, not like that).

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