Minimum price for alcohol (1 Viewer)

[dudley]

Where do we stand on this people?

I, for one, think it's foolhardy. Making booze pricier won't deter a soul from drinking, it'll just have a knock on effect to the other area's people spend their money on. We're a nation of idiot drinkers, making it more expensive won't solve that, we need a cultural sea change.

Where I think the move is particularly flawed isn't in relation to alcoholics, but to those who surround and are effected by their behaviour.

An alcoholic doesn't buy drink guided by reason, they are compulsed. Children of alcoholics stand to slip further into mistreatment, thanks to this.

So, I reckon it's a bad move, but what should be done?

 

[pete]

make it expensive for kids and cheap for alcoholics, with a sliding scale between the two points

 

[east hastings]

Does anyone believe that putting up the price has anything got to do with deterring people from drinking?

It's kinda like Dublin Bus prices, keeps going up and people just put up with it

 

[egg_]

@dudley

For the patients in our study, the impact of a minimum unit price of 50p/unit on spending on alcohol would be 200 times higher for patients with liver disease who were drinking at harmful levels than for low-risk drinkers. As a health policy, a minimum unit price for alcohol is exquisitely targeted at the heaviest drinkers, for whom the impact of alcohol-related illness is most devastating.

from Impact of minimum price per unit of alcohol on patients with liver disease in the UK. - ResearchGate

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

I dunno how people will react. I can only imagine they'll drink less.
I've hated how the multiples have killed offies. Maybe that will change.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Does anyone believe that putting up the price has anything got to do with deterring people from drinking?

Yes. I do.

 

[Lili Marlene]

@dudley
a minimum unit price for alcohol is exquisitely targeted at the heaviest drinkers, for whom the impact of alcohol-related illness is most devastating.
from Impact of minimum price per unit of alcohol on patients with liver disease in the UK. - ResearchGate

So does this not mean that this will have little affect on most people? By and large, it won't make much difference?

More importantly, what price difference will this make to:

1. Six Dutch
2. A flagon of cider
3. A bottle of Buckfast
   
4. the cheapest of alcopops (which I think are already expensive enough these days)

Will this just remove the joy of bargain hunting booze?

 

[egg_]

Yeah, it'll have little effect on most people's drinking, but will lessen the damage done to people with a serious problem with booze

Based on that it seems like a very good idea, tbh

 

[therealjohnny]

Does this affect pub prices or off-license..or both?

 

[JohnnyRaz]

So does this not mean that this will have little affect on most people? By and large, it won't make much difference?

More importantly, what price difference will this make to:

1. Six Dutch
2. A flagon of cider
3. A bottle of Buckfast
   
4. the cheapest of alcopops (which I think are already expensive enough these days)

Will this just remove the joy of bargain hunting booze?

I forsee the drunks of ireland becoming conniseurs of fine wines and craft beers as a result of this..

 

[Denny Oubidoux]

I wonder if it means that stuff that's already above the minimum price will remain unchanged will they put it up across the board?

If is the latter then FUCK THIS

 

[ann post]

So does this not mean that this will have little affect on most people? By and large, it won't make much difference?

More importantly, what price difference will this make to:

1. Six Dutch

Have you sophisticated city types not moved onto karpacie/prasky in the about about a fiver bracket?

 

[Lili Marlene]

Have you sophisticated city types not moved onto karpacie/prasky in the about about a fiver bracket?

haha, I consider dutch a category rather than a specific beer. Like a Hoover.

 

[ann post]

haha, I consider dutch a category rather than a specific beer. Like a Hoover.

There is a rumour floating around the west that the time the lad from westlife got assualted in sligo, he was actually hit with six dutch in a carrier bag. I sooo want it to be true. Pure turner prize material.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Does this affect pub prices or off-license..or both?

Seems like the offies and multiples only.

Pubs all sell at above the minimum already.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

Seems like the offies and multiples only.

Pubs all sell at above the minimum already.

convienient that...

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

convienient that...

Well, it's consistent at least.

 

[ilovehoovering]

Link on boards to some statistical analysis.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

How much are cans up north?

@johnnystress @moose

I know you're Donegalians, but you guys usually have a better tap on what's happening up there than most Free Staters do.

 

[ann post]