Let's have a debate about immigration (2 Viewers)

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He would definitley get deported under @egg_'s criteria, regardless of being born here (which of course, is no guaruntee of citizenship, thank you very much racists ten years ago)


theres a weird one. I'm Irish under Irish rules on nationality. But I'm British under American rules of nationality. I found that out when investigating my eligibility for a US work visa a few years back.

surely nationality rules should be set by each country and every other country should respect that?

Though I did come across this very usual case one time. A lad I worked with was born in Spain when his folks (from Argentina) were on holidays there. They went back to Argentina only to find he didn't qualify as Argentinian (Argentinian only if you were born there), nor did he qualify as Spanish (where your parents were from) so he was left without any nationality. Which is fucking nuts.
 
My brother in law is Australian but Australia revoked his citizenship when he told them he had taken Irish citizenship. They're real pricks there sometimes. He then had to get a tourist visa to go home for Christmas and only got his citizenship back through his Australian citizen wife (me sister).
 
theres a weird one. I'm Irish under Irish rules on nationality. But I'm British under American rules of nationality. I found that out when investigating my eligibility for a US work visa a few years back.

surely nationality rules should be set by each country and every other country should respect that?

Do you have Irish citizenship/a passport? I'd have thought that in the case of duel citizenships you're allowed to specify which one you identify as.


Though I did come across this very usual case one time. A lad I worked with was born in Spain when his folks (from Argentina) were on holidays there. They went back to Argentina only to find he didn't qualify as Argentinian (Argentinian only if you were born there), nor did he qualify as Spanish (where your parents were from) so he was left without any nationality. Which is fucking nuts.

That seems very strange, I did some research into living as a stateless individual a while back because I thought the topic was interesting, the UN try to make it hard for countries to leave someone in that situation.
 
My brother in law is Australian but Australia revoked his citizenship when he told them he had taken Irish citizenship. They're real pricks there sometimes. He then had to get a tourist visa to go home for Christmas and only got his citizenship back through his Australian citizen wife (me sister).

So your sister, an Irish, married an Aussie, and she became an Aussie, and he became and Irish and then stopped being an Aussie, and only became an Aussie again thanks to his wife the Aussie, who was Irish?

Is your sister still Irish or did they make her renounce her Irish citizenship?
 
I also have an American and an Irish passport. It always causes confusion at the American end.."why would a US citizen require an Irish passport?"

"Just because" I say..and step through the barrier into the land of the free to be among my own kind
 
I also have an American and an Irish passport. It always causes confusion at the American end.."why would a US citizen require an Irish passport?"

"Just because" I say..and step through the barrier into the land of the free to be among my own kind

I have a spare room, whenever you feel the need to just walk away from it all.
 
The job is threatening to send me to the states to meet the clients so I might be giving you a ring
 
Do you have Irish citizenship/a passport? I'd have thought that in the case of duel citizenships you're allowed to specify which one you identify as.
Irish all the way. It was one of those visas they release from time to time to people from certain countries working in certain industries. I looked into the small print and they had their own definition of 'nationality' and it was different from Ireland's definition. I was disgusted, even though I don't think I'd actually have moved anyway.


That seems very strange, I did some research into living as a stateless individual a while back because I thought the topic was interesting, the UN try to make it hard for countries to leave someone in that situation.

In this case his folks appealed to both Spanish and Argentinian authorities. Spain came through first so he got an EU passport, which is probably infinitely better than an Argie one (in terms of freedom of movement, etc).
 
I have an American passport. I was supposed to surrender my Irish one.
Won't be happening.

I made the mistake of showing my US one to a Gard at Irish immigration once. Fuck me. The dog and fucking pony show I had to put on for this fucker at 5 in the morning.
see there on the news that the gards won't be doing the passport controls anymore.
 

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