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[Diumraid]

In 'classical' music the flattened seventh is used to facilitate a change of key. C is the I (tonic) chord in the key of C major - add a flattened 7th (B-flat) and it becomes the V7 chord in the key of F major (for example). The altered note indicates that you are in a new key.

In blues styles the flattened seventh is used all over the chord progressions without any modulation.

Major 7ths (unflattened) give a floating, moody effect and with distortion create instant shoegazer tendencies - can be applied liberally.

 

[Diumraid]

As regards this thread - I play a lot of instruments - none of them expertly - it gives me a lot of perspective on putting music together and its a lorra fun but I have great regard and a pinch of envy for people who have really put the effort in on one instrument.

 

[therealjohnny]

This talk of sevenths etc makes me realise I haven't a clue what I'm doing when I play guitar

 

[Diumraid]

This talk of sevenths etc makes me realise I haven't a clue what I'm doing when I play guitar

That's how 'they' get you - if you like what you're hearing that's most of the deal - if you hit a glass wall trying to get somewhere then it's time to get some help.

 

[GO]

Rock n roll is made with yer ears.And you're balls/vagina.Notes dont even come into it.

 

[ann post]

Rock n roll is made with yer ears.And you're balls/vagina.Notes dont even come into it.

that kinda shit gets quoted all the time. its not in the slightest bit true. if you think its true, never tune your guitar again.

 

[magicbastarder]

Re 7ths, try this: http://www.fretjam.com/guitar-chord-theory-3.html. The video is very good.


It's probably a good site too. Gonna check it out later.

cheers. music is just maths, really, so the theory should be relatively straightforward.

 

[therealjohnny]

cheers. music is just maths, really,

that's me fucked then

A friend of mine is a jazz musician and an engineer..he bent my ear one night about how exciting jazz was as it was all about mathematical equations ...or something

way over head but made sense to him

 

[GARYXKNIFEDX]

that kinda shit gets quoted all the time. its not in the slightest bit true. if you think its true, never tune your guitar again.

guitars are actually never in tune.





(*although I think someone invented a new compensated bridge and tuning system to sort that but it isn't that common)

 

[GARYXKNIFEDX]

cheers. music is just maths, really, so the theory should be relatively straightforward.

When I first started with guitar,I said to someone I knew how it all seemed quite mathematical,he laughed at me and told me I should start learning notes and chord names instead. I never did.

 

[GO]

that kinda shit gets quoted all the time. its not in the slightest bit true. if you think its true, never tune your guitar again.

I wuz playin rock n roll before I could tune me guitar iirc!

 

[Denny Oubidoux]

I can't read music and am stuck in the common blues/rock/folk chord sequences and stuff when i play the guitar. not that i always bother tuning it though, and for years i poured scorn on bandmates when they tuned theirs for gigs. when you're trying to play tunes knowledge is power i reckon. if you know a few more chords, how things fit together in a few more different ways then you can lob them into your tunes as easily as you would a g to d chord change. just because jazzers are comfortable with different scales and shit doesnt mean they're playing maths - leave them alone.

 

[Denny Oubidoux]

we should call them jizzers now that i think of it. musical masturbation etc

 

[therealjohnny]

I can't read music and am stuck in the common blues/rock/folk chord sequences and stuff when i play the guitar.

This is the same rut I'm stuck in. I have Mickeys Baker's jazz guitar Book 1...I'm hoping to absorb it by osmosis because every time I try to read it I get a bit overwhelmed

 

[Cryptid]

@cryptid

i cant find it.

Thanks ann post. I'll get one going and see if we can find any sweet links.

I can kinda read music, to a rudimentary level. Wouldn't be great at 'sight reading' at all.

I have a dreadful ear for music which I'm trying to improve, through prayer mostly. I'd be ok with relative pitch.

I find persistence is the best route to improvement. The length of time you spend banging away at it is key. It's like flexing a muscle - the music bit of your brain gets more athletic and fit and built up generally.

 

[ann post]

I wuz playin rock n roll before I could tune me guitar iirc!

realisticaly you were probably playing out of tune shite, which you now know. also, you obviouslsy ended up learning to tune the guitar and learning to play to the point that you could play the stuff you like, which is what everyone regardless of background and genre does. thats why i dont like those kinda catchphrases, because essentially they come down to some kind of snobbery. they are a crap roundabout way of implying that if everyone doesnt play rock and roll then they are not proper musicians or something. thats a pile of shit.

 

[GO]

Yeah.Couldnt agree more.

Rock On !

 

[magicbastarder]

so much for the new guitar. hard to play after you've sliced the tip of your finger off while chopping carrots.

 

[shower another shower]

some of mah tabla stuff. North Indian classical is all mathematical.

 

[therealjohnny]

so much for the new guitar. hard to play after you've sliced the tip of your finger off while chopping carrots.

yikes


never stopped Tony Iommi though