GREXIT thread (1 Viewer)

[therealjohnny]

So...Greece folded? There is no alternative to the current system? Libertarianism or chaos?

Pretty depressing


Greek bailout: Europe strikes deal after marathon talks - Jul. 12, 2015

 

[Lili Marlene]

The EU though, I want to believe but when push comes to shove we're all nationalist pricks. There's a pile of states in the US with a massive deficit every year that get bailed out by the government without the entire world almost coming to a standstill, cos they're all American at the end of the day...

(ok, the EU and the USA aren't exactly that comparable, but we're hardly making encourages moves towards it either)

 

[therealjohnny]

Yanis Varoufakis full transcript: our battle to save Greece

"To have very powerful figures look at you in the eye and say “You’re right in what you’re saying, but we’re going to crunch you anyway.”

" it’s that there was point blank refusal to engage in economic arguments. Point blank. … You put forward an argument that you’ve really worked on – to make sure it’s logically coherent – and you’re just faced with blank stares. It is as if you haven’t spoken. What you say is independent of what they say. You might as well have sung the Swedish national anthem – you’d have got the same reply. And that’s startling, for somebody who’s used to academic debate. … The other side always engages. Well there was no engagement at all. It was not even annoyance, it was as if one had not spoken."

 

[Lili Marlene]

Yanis Varoufakis full transcript: our battle to save Greece

"To have very powerful figures look at you in the eye and say “You’re right in what you’re saying, but we’re going to crunch you anyway.”

" it’s that there was point blank refusal to engage in economic arguments. Point blank. … You put forward an argument that you’ve really worked on – to make sure it’s logically coherent – and you’re just faced with blank stares. It is as if you haven’t spoken. What you say is independent of what they say. You might as well have sung the Swedish national anthem – you’d have got the same reply. And that’s startling, for somebody who’s used to academic debate. … The other side always engages. Well there was no engagement at all. It was not even annoyance, it was as if one had not spoken."

it's like dealing with HR

 

[pete]

HL: Did you try working together with the governments of other indebted countries?

YV: The answer is no, and the reason is very simple: from the very beginning those particular countries made it abundantly clear that they were the most energetic enemies of our government, from the very beginning. And the reason of course was their greatest nightmare was our success: were we to succeed in negotiating a better deal for Greece, that would of course obliterate them politically, they would have to answer to their own people why they didn’t negotiate like we were doing.

 

[therealjohnny]

There's that unity on display

 

[Unicron]

The EU though, I want to believe but when push comes to shove we're all nationalist pricks. There's a pile of states in the US with a massive deficit every year that get bailed out by the government without the entire world almost coming to a standstill, cos they're all American at the end of the day...

(ok, the EU and the USA aren't exactly that comparable, but we're hardly making encourages moves towards it either)

I think a closer comparison is the way Dublin/North Kildare/South East Meath/ South Louth/North Wicklow pays for the rest of this country.

 

[Lili Marlene]

I think a closer comparison is the way Dublin/North Kildare/South East Meath/ South Louth/North Wicklow pays for the rest of this country.

In that case we should really be punishing them more. Peasants.

 

[Unicron]

Probably being generous to south Louth there TBH

 

[therealjohnny]

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[therealjohnny]

This coup is a fetaccomplis

 

[Scientician 0.8]

You're being too fetalistic about it.

 

[Unicron]

Are the Greeks being greeked then?

 

[Denny Oubidoux]

Nana, not at all

 

[Unknown Convict]

#taramasolidarity

 

[therealjohnny]

Exiting the eur-ouzo-ne

 

[Unknown Convict]

Exiting the eur-ouzo-ne

i toyed with exactly that and "ouzo frad of the i.m.f." but thought better of it (until now, obvs. - get stuffed. vine. leave it out,)

 

[Lili Marlene]

I missed this the other day:

​Ireland is no model for Greece | World news | The Guardian

Many in Ireland proudly proclaim we are not Greece. That’s true. Ireland is Ireland – learning little from the speculative boom and bust, doing little to address its deficits in productive sectors, ignoring the profound social costs that it imposed on itself. Ireland is not only not a model for Greece and other European countries; it shouldn’t even be a model for itself.

 

[therealjohnny]

Greek Crisis is Not Only a Tragedy: It is a Lie - Fair Observer

“Anti-austerity party sweeps to stunning victory,” declared a Guardian headline on January 25. “Radical leftists,” the paper called Tsipras and his impressively-educated comrades. They wore open neck shirts, and the finance minister rode a motorbike and was described as a “rock star of economics.” It was a façade. They were not radical in any sense of that clichéd label, neither were they “anti austerity.”