General Election 2024 (2 Viewers)

[JohnnyRaz]

Wow.

failing upwards like a fucking champ.

being unelectable elsewhere is kinda one of the boxes to tick for senators. Sure wasn't the bould Ivana there for years while trying to get into the big house.

 

[ann post]

It's a really stupid time to be alive.

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

It's a really stupid time to be alive.

My wife has recently been pointing out that when people talk about living through interesting times in history, no one ever mentioned about how fucking embarrassing it is to be associated with this bullshit.

 

[magicbastarder]

You're punching yourself with your own arm

 

[taubstumm]

My wife has recently been pointing out that when people talk about living through interesting times in history, no one ever mentioned about how fucking embarrassing it is to be associated with this bullshit.

I was thinking a similar thing earlier today when i saw a clip of marco rubio being interviewed. new chief american diplomat, just coming out of having first real big meeting with the russians. some reporter asks him how the meeting went, and the first thing he says is something like “this amazing breakthrough is only possible because of the amazing president trump, nobody else can lead like him” — that kind of stuff. I was cringing all the way through, on a purely human level. have some dignity man! just tell us about the meeting!

 

[magicbastarder]

it's kinda amazng to what extent the government have decided 'we just don't care anymore' on housing.
there are several things they could do which would be popular (and sensible) even if they wouldn't make that much difference, but it'd at least seem they were trying something new.

 

[UnicronUnicron is verified member.]

it's kinda amazng to what extent the government have decided 'we just don't care anymore' on housing.
there are several things they could do which would be popular (and sensible) even if they wouldn't make that much difference, but it'd at least seem they were trying something new.

Unimpressed by the "well you can build a shed in the garden" idea?

 

[magicbastarder]

plus the tax breaks for developers. again.

 

[UnicronUnicron is verified member.]

plus the tax breaks for developers. again.

Anything to avoid the obvious idea of "maybe we should build housing for people that need it." Clear that the lack of social housing and the funnelling of people who need it into the private rental sector through HAP has been a disaster for everyone seeking housing, it's a top up for landlords and creates extra competition in the sector which drives rent up rents for people who aren't entitled to the benefit which makes it harder to save to buy a home if you do want to buy, and in any case the lack of social housing is a contributing factor to the high cost of buying a house.

I'm in proper middle age now, I thought I was supposed to become more Tory as I aged. I don't think my politics are especially radical but if anything I'm going the other way,

 

[magicbastarder]

the problem is that it's lads with MBAs and nice ties and slick powerpoint presentations who are telling them what they should do. and we need to trust these guys because they seem so confident.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

Anything to avoid the obvious idea of "maybe we should build housing for people that need it." Clear that the lack of social housing and the funnelling of people who need it into the private rental sector through HAP has been a disaster for everyone seeking housing, it's a top up for landlords and creates extra competition in the sector which drives rent up rents for people who aren't entitled to the benefit which makes it harder to save to buy a home if you do want to buy, and in any case the lack of social housing is a contributing factor to the high cost of buying a house.

I'm in proper middle age now, I thought I was supposed to become more Tory as I aged. I don't think my politics are especially radical but if anything I'm going the other way,

back pre-housing crisis (or at least pre his iteration of irelands housing issues) I used to hear rent allowance being referred to as the 'landlords dole'.

 

[UnicronUnicron is verified member.]

back pre-housing crisis (or at least pre his iteration of irelands housing issues) I used to hear rent allowance being referred to as the 'landlords dole'.

That's pretty much it.

I don't think everyone who needs social housing necessarily needs to be in state or council owned accommodation, there's a social value to having economically diverse communities and even so it may not suit the needs of everyone who needs to be housed.

For example I don't think if a single person were entitled to assistance the state wouldn't get a decent bang for it's buck by building a load of 1 bed apartments, or moving families with kids in schools or other needs away from them and putting them in a house miles away causing massive disruption.

But we should be building more.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

plus the tax breaks for developers. again.

I actually dont think, if regulated properly, the bedsit/granny flat idea is that bad an idea as part of an overall mix of solutions. Even Eoin O Broin on the radio this morning was struggling to find anything too negative to say about it. of course it will probably lead to landlords renting out shacks down the back of gaff they are already renting out.

Tax breaks for developers is the very definition of doing the same thing and expecting different results.

Lots of NIMBY texts coming in about the peace of peoples gardens being disturbed by neighbors doing this. As if having a back garden in a city in the height of a housing crisis wasn't a complete luxury. Our neighbours have surreptitiously converted a garage previously converted into a kinda guest room into a proper flat for their daughter and his fella.

 

[ann post]

I have perodical fantasies of mcmansions being split into 2-3 decent sized apartments. fuck the sheds like
the ones out here are 200m2 region. a lot more in the 220-250 direction. UTM's bunglalow blitz bungalow is 90ish - and we dont actually ever use one whole room here (population here is 2). You could fit a couple with a kid and and office room on one floor of most of the houses in east galway, and you still have two apartments on top and usually enough garden space to land a fucking plane on.

the shed things are a bit dodgy in the long term - like are you buying that land off the parents, are you splicing right of ways in the driveway - granted there's ideal setups where if kids come the parents might swap out with you, but otherwise it's some serious legal boundary fuckery long term.

 

[UnicronUnicron is verified member.]

I have perodical fantasies of mcmansions being split into 2-3 decent sized apartments. fuck the sheds like
the ones out here are 200m2 region. a lot more in the 220-250 direction. UTM's bunglalow blitz bungalow is 90ish - and we dont actually ever use one whole room here (population here is 2). You could fit a couple with a kid and and office room on one floor of most of the houses in east galway, and you still have two apartments on top and usually enough garden space to land a fucking plane on.

the shed things are a bit dodgy in the long term - like are you buying that land off the parents, are you splicing right of ways in the driveway - granted there's ideal setups where if kids come the parents might swap out with you, but otherwise it's some serious legal boundary fuckery long term.

People across the road from my MIL had a situation like this. No shed as such but they split the house between themselves and one of the kids in a front half/back half kind of deal. Parents passed away and the other kids wanted to sell the part they were in but it ended up creating some weird right of way driveway situation and putting a wall up between what was sold and what wasn't.

 

[Cormcolash]

I'll sell you a room in my gaff for 2 grand a month if you want?

 

[JohnnyRaz]

I have perodical fantasies of mcmansions being split into 2-3 decent sized apartments. fuck the sheds like
the ones out here are 200m2 region. a lot more in the 220-250 direction. UTM's bunglalow blitz bungalow is 90ish - and we dont actually ever use one whole room here (population here is 2). You could fit a couple with a kid and and office room on one floor of most of the houses in east galway, and you still have two apartments on top and usually enough garden space to land a fucking plane on.

the shed things are a bit dodgy in the long term - like are you buying that land off the parents, are you splicing right of ways in the driveway - granted there's ideal setups where if kids come the parents might swap out with you, but otherwise it's some serious legal boundary fuckery long term.

Yeah the potential for long term legal issues is there for sure. There are a few scenarios where it would be problem free (or near enough), but a lot of opportunities for issues.

Even as you say at the level of boundaries and access if the homes are sold separately

I guess it’s a case to some extent trying to regularise/regulate a thing that’s already happening

 

[magicbastarder]

i think part of the planning process (till now - there's talk of 'relaxing' it) is access for the fire brigade. so it may not be an option for people who don't have easy access to the back garden.

 

[magicbastarder]

there's a house near me which was originally a 4 bed with garage, which we think has become a nine bed.
the master bedroom has been split down the middle - to the point where the dividing wall actually runs up against the bay window of the original room.

 

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the problem is that it's lads with MBAs and nice ties and slick powerpoint presentations who are telling them what they should do. and we need to trust these guys because they seem so confident.

The fabled graph men.