evolution stuff (1 Viewer)

[taubstumm]

just thought i'd try and bring it out into a different thread.

maybe we should organise to meet up some night and have an evolution-themed discussion.

like, in the lord edward or something, but we can call it a symposium.

people seem to have a lot to say about it.

(next monday night?)

 

[Super Dexta]

i don't want to be related to monkeys. i don't like monkeys. i think the god thing seems like a better idea.

 

[Pantone247]

*cough*dork *cough*

 

[taubstumm]

*cough*dork *cough*

dude, evolution rules.

anyway, i'm not the one writing all the stuff about it on t'other threads. i am merely the facilitator of progress.

now, let's talk about gretsch guitars, chuggy indie music, quarkxpress and doobie.

 

[snakybus]

hahaha


hahaha


you guys fighting, it's like, I dunno, the Gaia hypothesis, it's so funny

 

[Unclealo]

I'll only go if you have a little bell to call people to order. And so creationists, that would be mildly amusing

 

[SONYMEGADRIVE]

i'd definitely go if it was a discussion about devolution

andrew

ps -
they tell us that
we lost our tails
evolving up
from little snails
i say it's all
just wind in sails
are we not men?
we are DEVO!
we're pinheads now
we are not whole
we're pinheads all
jocko homo
are we not men?
D-E-V-O
monkey men all
in business suit
teachers and critics
all dance the poot
are we not men?
we are DEVO!
are we not men?
D-E-V-O
god made man
but he used the monkey to do it
apes in the plan
we're all here to prove it
i can walk like an ape
talk like an ape
i can do what a monkey can do
god made man
but a monkey supplied the glue
we must repeat
o.k. let's go!

 

[Pantone247]

you guys fighting, it's like, I dunno, the Gaia hypothesis, it's so funny

it's like Mixamytoxiloki Valdimr Ballscockson Tiki Tiki Cack

like just stop making words up Mike

I'm holding a Fundamental Christian meeting at the opposite tabel to Tom's little dork-a-thon, there we will be discussing how God made the world in seven days, how we all are the severly inbreed decentantds of Adam and Eve and how Dinosaurs never exsited... after which I'll be blowing my own brains off just to stop the boredom.

 

[Alan Remorse]

I fully support the theory that we all evolved from Devo. i know i did.

 

[MDR]

We had this symposium last night in Peter's. You missed out. You should never have shed your dorsal fin.

 

[egg_]

We had this symposium last night in Peter's

So how did it end? I was very frustrated having to leave when I did, Jah Shaka was deadly though

 

[MDR]

Turns out we all come from monkeys.

 

[P. Littbarski]

Turns out we all come from monkeys.

How can that be when the world was clearly created in the year 4004 BC...and the methodology is sound by the way.

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Ussher-Lightfoot%20Calendar

 

[egg_]

from that encyclopedia:

Gould as a biologist

The biologist John Maynard Smith wrote that Gould "is giving non-biologists a largely false picture of the state of evolutionary theory"; another biologist, Ernst Mayr, wrote of Gould, and those who agree with him, that they "quite conspicuously misrepresent the views of evolutionary biology's leading spokesmen."

John Tooby and Leda Cosmides wrote that "although Gould characterizes his critics as "anonymous" and "a tiny coterie," nearly every major evolutionary biologist of our era has weighed in in a vain attempt to correct the tangle of confusions that the higher profile Gould has inundated the intellectual world with. The point is not that Gould is the object of some criticism -- so properly are we all -- it is that his reputation as a credible and balanced authority about evolutionary biology is non-existent among those who are in a professional position to know."

The dispute occurred because Gould presented his ideas as a revolutionary new way of understanding evolution that relegated adaptationism to a much less important position. As such, many non-specialists became convinced due to his early writings that neo-Darwinism has been proven to be wrong (which Gould never wanted to imply); worse, his works were sometimes used out of context as a "proof" that scientists no longer understood how organisms evolved, therefore giving Christian creationists ammunition in their battle against evolution. Gould himself refuted some of these these misinterpretations and distortions of his teachings in later works.

Gould had a long-running feud with Richard Dawkins and other evolutionary biologists over sociobiology (a branch of biology that attempts to explain animal behavior and social structures in terms of evolutionary advantage or strategy) and its descendant evolutionary psychology, which Gould opposed but Dawkins, Dennett, Pinker and others strongly advocated, and over the importance of gene selection in evolution: Dawkins argued that all evolution is ultimately caused by gene competition, while Gould advocated the importance of higher level competition including, controversially, species selection. Many evolutionary biologists believe that Gould misunderstood Dawkins' claims, and that he ended up refuting a point of view that Dawkins had not held. Strong criticism of Gould can be found particularly in Dawkins' The Blind Watchmaker and Dennett's Darwin's Dangerous Idea; Dennett's criticism has tended to be harsher while Dawkins actually praises Gould in evolutionary topics other than those of contention.

Gould, together with Richard Lewontin in an influential 1979 paper, popularized the use of the architectural word "spandrel" in an evolutionary context, using it to mean a feature of an organism that exists as a necessary consequence of other features and is not actually selected for. The relative frequency of spandrels, so defined, versus adaptive features in nature, remains a controversial topic in evolutionary biology.

 

[Alan Remorse]

basically a load of monkeys were having a circle jerk into a pool of goo and from that goo came Devo, who paved the way for the human race with their off-kilter pop ditties and tight fitting suits.