the jennifer o'connell who recently wrote that sustainable transport begins with road building.
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I'm not trying to attack her per se, just she's a good gauge of where the most middle of the road thinking in Ireland is right now.the jennifer o'connell who recently wrote that sustainable transport begins with road building.
the jennifer o'connell who recently wrote that sustainable transport begins with road building.
Sally Rooney is very middle Ireland IMO. I thought the thumped thread on the Ordinary People TV series was a hoot and about as close to a consensus as thumped ever is ever likely to get.I am calling for an end to @nuke terrorist's hateful anti fiction anti Sally Rooney campaign. Enough is enough.
Very much so. The firmly centre right newspaper who has convinced itself its centre left. I wonder will F O'Toole write about it? Like i was saying earlier, it's the middle Ireland Brendan O Connors and Jennifer O'Connells I use to really gauge public opinion these days
i wouldn't worry too much, she's one of those columnists who doesn't seem to have a speciality. a 'let me discuss what's topical' type.I'm not aware if I've read her or not (but probably will now) but I kinda think that the she, like a huge portion of Ireland still believe that.
Alan Shatter and Frances Black are both-sidesing this ATM on radio 1
i wouldn't worry too much, she's one of those columnists who doesn't seem to have a speciality. a 'let me discuss what's topical' type.
"Frances, is your objective a two-state solution with the two sides living peacefully or is it the destruction of the state of Israel?". She didn't answer that stupid question but i think she should have.Shatter. Holy fuck, it's been a while
WELL YOU CAN'T BUILD RAILWAY TRACKS IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DRIVE THE RAILS TO THE PLACE THEY NEED TO BE LAID DOWN, CAN YOU???the jennifer o'connell who recently wrote that sustainable transport begins with road building.
WELL YOU CAN'T BUILD RAILWAY TRACKS IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO DRIVE THE RAILS TO THE PLACE THEY NEED TO BE LAID DOWN, CAN YOU???
This is actually really bugging me now.Well i still haven't watched the tv show, and probably never will, but then again, have you have actually read any Sally Rooney books? Obviously anything that is being read by every single person going is gonna be overrated but they're still decent, especially compared to the last 20 years of bestsellers on Ireland.
No. I haven't read her books.Well i still haven't watched the tv show, and probably never will, but then again, have you have actually read any Sally Rooney books? Obviously anything that is being read by every single person going is gonna be overrated but they're still decent, especially compared to the last 20 years of bestsellers on Ireland.
rs can choose not to see that, and just talk about her good sentences and how they liked the emotions in it, and isn't it great how she's writing these love stories like a modern Jane Austen (an arch satirist btw, but you couldn't tell that from the tv adaptations) but that's on them.
I'm not saying you have to read her stuff at all! But you're expressing some serious opinions on them all the same so i'm gonna challenge you.No. I haven't read her books.
I think she's written 3 novels. when the first one came out I read a review of it and an interview with Sally Rooney and guess what? I took a major dislike to her.
I never heard much of her again until the TV series came out last year.
I have read reviews and synopses of the three novels I am aware of. they seem to be about relationships and mundane things.
NB - I listened to about 30 Kate Bush songs recently and as a result I am not going to read a book to decide that I definitely don't like it.
Ordinary People TV show:
someone in our house recorded the second episode and I fast forwarded through most of it.
the guy seemed like a nice 'ordinary' lad who talked through all the consent stuff you never saw much until recently, when they were devirginizing each other. Your woman I didn't find anyway likeable.
apart from that I saw a few bits of other episodes:
I was waiting for the 10 pm news to come on one night on BBC when I caught the last 10 seconds of an episode where she is looking out at the sea and a mellow cover version of Love Will Tear Us Apart is playing. This kind of pseudo profound cliche always makes me very annoyed.
also the fact characters are angling for creative careers is another cliche.
lots of people reading this are very creative and nearly all do something 'non-creative' to make a living.
some books written in Ireland are great. if I had never heard of Flann O'Brien I be stunned he ever existed.
I'll tell you what - if I ever see one of Rooney's books at a friends I'll give it a flick through.
but I am not going to give someone the time I gave Kate Bush again.
I've never had a girl/boyfriend, went to college, don't drink or take drugs, almost never went out when I was the OP characters age and advocated anarchist revolution when I was in my late teens/early 20's.
I still think this was good decision making.
so I admit I am about 180 degrees from Sally Rooney's target market.
I found the characters in Rooney's world fairly apathetic unless you can tell me otherwise.
I'm not saying you have to read her stuff at all! But you're expressing some serious opinions on them all the same so i'm gonna challenge you.
And her characters are fairly apathetic, yes, what's your point? It's not a memoir or a policy document for how to live your life. If anything her books endorse your way of living, they're damning of university-educated "creatives" going around getting messed up, loving the sounds of their own voices, and looking for endorsement from the establishment just so they can feel important, and ultimately achieving nothing.
I haven't watched the tv show, maybe some day I will.
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