nazi metal at the lower deck 28 feb (2 Viewers)

the pyrate dead said:
so this thread in its eternity is far to long to read all of, the question is has anything been actually done yet or are we still at the talking stage? not being smart, just wondering?
the lower deck have cancelled the gig, if that's what you're asking.
 
nooly said:
never mind janer
anyway back to zounds. saw em in leeds a couple of years ago and they didn't seem to be into it at all. in fact they were kind of rude and disinterested. disappointing.

I thought that was a great gig and also onto janers peter and the testube babies post that was in afct my first punk gig, yowser, ah well it was worht if for 'banned from the pubs'.|..|
 
Wow some impressivly stupid shit on this thread! Having an interest in ww2, nazism and the right wing makes you a nazi does it? I happen to think it's extremely important for leftwingers to understand what they are against!otherwise you're just another idiot who picked up the little bag of left wing ideals and haven't a clue what your talking about, stick a red star on your jacket,cross out some swatikas and your in.Bollocks. I've been to the nuremberg stadium and have a deep interest in history, im currently studying it. I am also especially interested in ww2 and have read numerous books on the subject and yes I've even read some David Irvine and David Lane. I've read huge amounts of books on the extreme right and neo-nazism ,met and debated with some people involved in it and learned what they are about. Its nice to sit around and think all right wingers are just a bunch of idiots with nothing better to do but let me assure you of your ignorence. The right wing is very much on the up and it is shit like political correctness which is helping, thats why I said that the cancelation of the gig would only benefit this band and the right wing. When issues that the left wing promote have a negative effect on people it tends to push ordinary people to support the right. Take immigration for example, in Britain little things are being changed due to immigration even shit like having to call the christmas lights winter-lights, that annoys people because well why should they have to change? In Dublin, St.James hospital took down(or moved,correct me if im wrong) their christmas crib so as not to offend people of other faiths, this annoyed alot of ordinary people, not just christians, because it is a tradition. Doing things like cancelling metal gigs will just start to piss metalers off, many of who will have had no interest in politics up until now will think 'well i don't want to support the leftwing if their going to start having a negative impact on my life' when in reality if this gig had of went ahead no one would have cared and it would have made no impact.

Don't waste your time on this bullshit thinking you've fought some right wing cause just by getting an underground gig cancelled. Get yourself informed and fight the real enemy. Talking to some of the people is the best thing you can do, you might change some minds, well you have more chance of making an impact that way than you will by just slagging them off or beating them up. You might also learn something about yourself. For example I read somewhere in this thread someone calling one of the guys on myspace a nazi because he said something about cultural preservation, I happen to be very much into the preservation of my culture however i am also interested in sharing it with others and educating myself about other cultures. People have this opinion that if you are leftwing you cant be cultural nationalist or have an interest in your own heritage, thats bullshit don't let people make you think you have to conform to some pre-thought out ideals, pick and choose and make up your own mind. If the right wing is getting more support surely that tells us that the left is doing something wrong not that everyone else is wrong.
 
That post would cost a fortune if you had to text it, would be broken up into about 42 texts.

You just don't get many words to a text message.
 
Grind
Are you trying to say that these guys are not nazis, just have an interest in National socialism just so they will know who they are up against if they ever bumped into one?
maybe at a white power fest they happened to be playing at...
 
grind said:
For example I read somewhere in this thread someone calling one of the guys on myspace a nazi because he said something about cultural preservation, I happen to be very much into the preservation of my culture however i am also interested in sharing it with others and educating myself about other cultures.

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Grind your elitist pseudo-intellectulism and nazi apologism are entirely boring and don't really inspire debate.

Do you actually believe the far right are making any gains in Ireland worth mentioning? The celtic wolves putting up some stickers in the middle of the night doesn't exactly count. Do you really think they'll get more support because a shit metal band were prevented from playing? Especially when you consider that AFA have been using the same No Platform policy in Ireland for years and are well grounded in the working class.

Your use of the left-right paradigm and stereotypes are fairly pointless as most people on here are libertarians or anarchists, a lot of us have as much time for liberals and leftists as you do but don't feel the need to resort to irrational reactionary positions.

The debate is more or less over, lets talk about Wilhelm Reich and how your irrational politics stem from an internalisation of sexual repression. I'm sure Shorty and Mazzianne could school your ass.

No Pasaran!
 
grind said:
Take immigration for example, in Britain little things are being changed due to immigration even shit like having to call the christmas lights winter-lights, that annoys people because well why should they have to change?
Don't waste your time on this bullshit thinking you've fought some right wing cause just by getting an underground gig cancelled. Get yourself informed and fight the real enemy.
jesus you're so full of shit. yeah why should people have to change? things in ireland like having to admit that priests committed paedophile sex crimes and that women were criminally subjected to slave labour and abuse in magdalene laundries upset a lot of people in ireland; some people need to be fucking offended.
nazi apologists fuck off.
 
look the beauty of all this is that nazi's are fighting a losing battle, aryan race my bollox, seriously do they honestly believe that the human race hasn't been mixed so much at this stage that any possible idea of a true white race is totally retarded and non existant, look at ireland for example with the amount of influence the spanish arrival in ireland had during the 1600's and how that changed a huge percentage of the populations heritage and appearance.

and to grind im fuckin delighted that crib was taken down too long has this country been caugt in the grip of those fuckin pricks in the catholic church.

fuck nazi's and fuck the church time is up for both :heart:
 

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