Talk radio makes me feel very alone
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Talk radio makes me feel very alone
going a bit far calling scientology a religion - it's like calling stupidity a religion
It was the smartest point I've heard about how pointless the argument itself is. The hijab is not the chador or the burqa, it's just a headscarf. Social/cultural/religious regulation of head coverings is nothing new, and it comes and goes. Yarmulkes never raised this sort of fuss, and I wouldn't want to see it raise one. Same with wearing a cross -- who gives a shite?
The problem I have is when people get attacked or condemned for not wearing veils, burquas etc
Joe Duffy actually manages to get shit done sometimes, and so has some redeeming value
The problem isn't so much whether women should/shouldn't wear it, it's down to whose choice it is to do so.
I would also like to point out that Joe Duffy wrote a little blurb on his page in the Irish Mail about how people should stop making a fuss about the Sikh garda thing, and that a little turban is hardly a threat to the nation. I thought that was actually pretty cool of him, considering the average Mail reader believes that Polish people eat the swans on the Canal.
Do you actually read the Mail in your own personal time?
Well yes, exactly. But my point was about the women who don't have that choice
I didn't distinguish between veils or any other body covering because I think it's irrelevant.
If a person is forced to wear a sombrero, a toga or a groucho marx moustache and glasses combo, and punished or ostracised if they don't..well there's my issue with it
Nooo! he's a complete knob. i hate the way things get done (like legislation getting drawn up and passed in a hurry) just because joe duffy decides to have some wound up prick with a bee in his bonnet on his show. and he never disagrees with his precious public even if they're saying the most ludicrous shit. i was very disheartened when before the last election fine gael said something to the effect that they would change sentencing laws so that sentences handed out to criminals would reflect the public view of the crime and i had a nightmare vision of judges tuning in to joe duffy to see what sentence the mindless masses wanted imposed. he needs to be taken out. ive never heard this brenda power but fuck it, get rid of her too.
Right, but you can't tell by looking at a woman if it was her choice, and the hijab is very different from the burqa. The hijab is just a headscarf, and while it may go hand-in-hand with other regulations of dress, it is not the same thing as a garment that covers the entire woman.
There are Muslim women who believe that the Western style of dress is oppressive, and that also needs to be taken into account. My point was that to ban whatever coverings is to doubly-victimise those who have not chosen it for themselves. Those who have made their own choice to wear it will have that choice taken away. Basically, a ban on the hijab does nothing to bestow free choice upon Muslim women. That was my point.
I also found it ironic that Brenda Power would even suggest that Muslims would think non-hijab-wearing women would be considered 'sluts', and yet she quite happily acknowledged that a woman dressed 'immodestly' is somehow asking for it. In other words, when the issue is discussed, it's not really about making sure women are choosing for themselves, it's about drawing up rules for when it is/isn't okay to judge or punish women.
Cue 55 pages of people nitpicking my post and completely missing the point of what I'm saying.
Cue 55 pages of people nitpicking my post and completely missing the point of what I'm saying.
but mostly i have my rage up so much after hearing the brilliant ger gilroy wasted another day
So let me get this straight, you're saying we somehow herd all the cats onto a huge barge and float them off to Greenland or something?
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