Well at least this could never happen here... (1 Viewer)

[pete]

As well as pornography, users may automatically be opted in to blocks on "violent material", "extremist related content", "anorexia and eating disorder websites" and "suicide related websites", "alcohol" and "smoking". But the list doesn't stop there. It even extends to blocking "web forums" and "esoteric material", whatever that is. "Web blocking circumvention tools" is also included, of course.

The ORG's Jim Killock says: "What's clear here is that David Cameron wants people to sleepwalk into censorship. We know that people stick with defaults: this is part of the idea behind 'nudge theory' and 'choice architecture' that is popular with Cameron."

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-07/27/pornwall

Mr Rabbitte said he “would be quite happy to [examine] whether the initiative announced by Mr Cameron has merit and can be made to work and whether the ISPs that are largely different here than they are in Britain would enter a similar protocol.”

Oh.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/tech...-uk-style-anti-pornography-measures-1.1473002

 

[GARYXKNIFEDX]

Probably be easier to just turn off the internet.

 

[GO]

If they start in with this shite here I'm getting rid of the internet outta the house.

 

[ann post]

my 3 mobile blocks loads of porn and swear words.

I was tweeting to @caitlinmoran earlier (and she ignored it because it didn't make her look cool) but its a bit like blaming paper for propoganda.

 

[Lili Marlene]

Clown-forum dot com aren't gonna be pleased

 

[Mormon Nailer]

I'll be in my bunk with some "esoteric material"

 

[washingcattle]

If they block the horn thread I'm going full on nail bomb jihad on their arses before killing myself with smokes and booze while watching Trash Humpers.

That's probably enough of to get Thumped banned right there.

Thanks Cameron

Thameron!!!

 

[pete]

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Does everyone really think that it's a bad idea for parents to be able to block pornography?

 

[washingcattle]

Does everyone really think that it's a bad idea for parents to be able to block pornography?

The issue isn't parents and children. There are plenty of existing ways to block your children from watching porn, one easy way is to spend more fucking time with your children in the first place.

The issue is that whether and how the British government can push the envelope further and censor more content as they go along. The argument always starts with "think of the children" and before you know it you can't download 1984 for kindle because it features the word terrorist more than once.

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

Does everyone really think that it's a bad idea for parents to be able to block pornography?

It's not just porn and making it an always-on instead of an opt-in service are the issues.

 

[magicbastarder]

The issue isn't parents and children. There are plenty of existing ways to block your children from watching porn, one easy way is to spend more fucking time with your children in the first place.

that reminds me of the time the jackass crew were on the late late, and some woman gave out to them for the effect their show was having on her eight year old. johnny knoxville politely pointed out that the show wasn't the problem, but that she was allowing her child to watch unsuitable material. i can't remember her response, but i suspect that's because she didn't have one.

 

[snakybus]

I think what you're saying is that blocking porn is a kind of "gateway censorship" that leads to greater censorship of things that shouldn't be censored. I think the issue here IS about pornography in that it has proliferated rapidly, and whether we should do anything about it, and I don't imagine Pat Rabitte would for a second ban 1984, Thumped.com, or even worse stuff like those nazi forums that metallers like where they wanna stomp out jews and stuff.

So if, as I posit, it's just pornography that's on his mind (and why wouldn't it be, going at it like a rabbitte etc) doesn't this kind of censorship already exist? Like, in some countries tit mags are freely available for all the world to see, whereas here they'd be only on the higher shelves, excluding short people from having a wank, which frankly is no less than they deserve, the little shits.

 

[snakybus]

And yes, you can spend time with your kids but you can't police them 24 hours a day. Believe me, try to stop three little girls watching "Hi 5". It's almost impossible to watch it on my own...

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

The issue isn't parents and children. There are plenty of existing ways to block your children from watching porn, one easy way is to spend more fucking time with your children in the first place.

The issue is that whether and how the British government can push the envelope further and censor more content as they go along. The argument always starts with "think of the children" and before you know it you can't download 1984 for kindle because it features the word terrorist more than once.

I think the issue is parents and children.

The fight against freedom of expression is a different one.

I don't buy the 'slippery slope' argument because I believe that porn is rampant on the web and kids are ever more wired in. I think it's a problem that needs to be addressed.

Anyone know of any porn filters that actually work?

 

[pete]

http://www1.k9webprotection.com/

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

First to mention Nazis or Hitler in here loses.

 

[Mormon Nailer]

Does everyone really think that it's a bad idea for parents to be able to block pornography?

I think it's a bad idea for parents to leave children unsupervised with an internet connection.
I think is a bad idea for parents to pawn off the job of supervising their children to a filter that doesn't work.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

I think it's a bad idea for parents to leave children unsupervised with an internet connection.
I think is a bad idea for parents to pawn off the job of supervising their children to a filter that doesn't work.

I don't see the solution here. You physically watch your children 24/7?

 

[washingcattle]

I think the issue is parents and children.

The fight against freedom of expression is a different one.

I don't buy the 'slippery slope' argument because I believe that porn is rampant on the web and kids are ever more wired in. I think it's a problem that needs to be addressed.

Anyone know of any porn filters that actually work?

Yes it's a problem that needs to be addressed, by parents who have children, not by governments.

Take photography for example.

Problem: pedophiles whacking off to images of kids

Solution : ban street photography involving children

so this

Banned

This

Banned

Banned.


And don't give me that "you'll understand when you have children" bollox.

The odds of being molested by a pedophile who isn't
A. a member of your own family

or

B. in a position of access to children i.e teacher or swimming coach etc are so astronomically high it's literally in the billions. But Governments have no problem creating a monster for their own purposes. We have legislation to make sure that anyone with access to children pass at least some sort of tests and are held accountable for infractions. Does it work ? Of course it doesn't it deals with criminals, it works as well as anti drug laws or anti murder laws. If a criminal wants to commit a crime they just will. It's that simple.


And in case no one fucking noticed photographs don't fucking hurt anyone.

And yet here we are,

"think of the children"

"yes we really should, and in doing so make them invisible from the world of art for ever more"

"yay fine job, pats on the back all round"


And yes that's exactly where we are now.

If you don't want your kids watching porn don't let them. If they manage to see porn anyway, big fucking deal they're probably raping prostitutes in the latest GTA game anyway. Children aren't the problem, porn isn't the problem parents who should never have had kids in the first place are the problem. Parents who spend more fucking time working on these crusades than with their children are the fucking problem.

Yeah I'll say it I have no problem with kids. But I fucking hate parents especially the "Oh poor us" brigade. Fuck you you should have watched some porn and had a wank that night instead. Now get off the internet and raise your kids shit birds.

Porn is the thin end of the wedge, and if you think it'll stop at that your out of your fucking mind. You raise your kids and I'll get on with my sinful life and leave them the fuck alone.