I suppose the real worry is whether most of the audience know it’s a piss take or not. I’m on the fence about how much they intend as a joke and how much is real. And even if it’s intended as a joke, it’s still appalling.
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Hmm, on the one hand she has a point...
On the other, I didn't really need to listen word for word to Versatile to assume that there's probably some dumb opinions in there. They seem to capture young lads off their face pretty well, it ain't gonna be pretty.
Ringsend is in Dublin 4. I very much doubt they're rich kidsSo what is the deal? Are they actually secretly rich kids from D4 or what? I mean, if so fair play, they're pretty good at cosplaying the worst aspects of the worst lads around Dublin.
People are just ragging on them for going to private school, and rightly so!Ringsend is in Dublin 4. I very much doubt they're rich kids
Typical straight white man response. Check your privilege.It's a good oul storm in a tea cup innit.
Versatile is pretty obviously a piss take and not to be taken seriously. The music/lyrics aren't representative of the people making them, because it's all being done for a laugh and it has much more in common with a theatrical performance when they do perform live.
Anyone jumping on top of them for the lyrics etc. is maybe just another example of people who can't understand the concept of parody, because really that's what Versatile is, a parody of young adulthood in Ireland. It's easy to understand the Rubberbandits showing support for them, because the Rubberbandits had to make the exact same defence of their own act against people who don't understand that not everything in the world should be taken as literal truth.
That all said, I don't find them funny myself because the humour is fairly lowest common denominator alright – but like somebody's already said, isn't that probably exactly why they're appealing to so many people and can sell out the 3arena?
I mean, I've worked at Jack Whitehall, Chris Rock, Ricky Gervais in the 3arena. I think all those shows were sold out, and from the bits I watched from each, I didn't hear one funny sentence. They were all shit. But, apparently, some people like this shit, go figure.
Versatile aren't particularly great and I don't really see them as having much longevity at all in their current form, but they're also quite clearly a piss take and not something people should be lambasting as evil racist misogynists that are the enemy of all society. They're just a bunch of lads playing stupid characters that loads of young people think is class for whatever reason.
Oh sorry, I thought I was on Twitter. No, well said Cormac, well said.Typical straight white man response. Check your privilege.
What does it mean for "black women" to fancy you? Are all black women interchangeably the same in your mind?I honestly don't understand why people would have a problem with lads rapping about black women fancying them, but no problem with lads rapping about murdering people and kidnapping children
Is it cos the former might be construed as real, when the latter obviously isn't? Genuine question, not looking to score points here ...
(FWIW that Craic Boy Mental song is really fucking poor)
Erm ... I'm not asking why saying black women fancy you is bad, I'm asking why is rapping about $BAD_THING_X causing such a kerfuffle when $MUCH_WORSE_THING_Y is not?What does it mean for "black women" to fancy you? Are all black women interchangeably the same in your mind?
Erm ... I'm not asking why saying black women fancy you is bad, I'm asking why is rapping about $BAD_THING_X causing such a kerfuffle when $MUCH_WORSE_THING_Y is not?
So people's problem isn't actually that they think Versatile are racist/misogynist, it's that they think their lyrical approach is passé?Your question doesn't make sense, none of this is literal. They're not rapping about black women fancying them, they're playing with basic 90's rap tropes about "black bitches" in a world where the biggest rap stars nowadays are these vulnerable men talking about their sexuality in new ways that had never been done in mainstream rap before (or are these emo lads rapping about how a message delivered in whatsapp and the person didn't reply immediately). It's embarrassing when we actually have modern rap coming from Ireland that isn't so regressive but this is the stuff that sells out the O3Point.
No, they think Versatile are racist and misogynist and their lyrical approach is passé,So people's problem isn't actually that they think Versatile are racist/misogynist, it's that they think their lyrical approach is passé?
They're not rapping about black women fancying them,
Yeah but only because an older boy told them to.They are though. They specifically talk about their small white cocks compared to the big black cocks black women are used to.
I also thought the craic boy thing was shite.
Typical straight white man response. Check your privilege.
I withdraw my hurtful statement. I have a lot of learning to do. Please pray for me at this difficult time.DID YOU JUST ASSUME MY GENDER???
So, what? You can just start posting again in six months having "learnt" your lesson? The fucking privilege of you. I won't rest until you are DEAD.I withdraw my hurtful statement. I have a lot of learning to do. Please pray for me at this difficult time.
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