Things we know in our hearts but won't admit (2 Viewers)

[Jerry Twig]

1. why pavement, pray tell?
2. crapola
3. cynical, no doubt true in some cases, but largely crapola

 

[Mormon Nailer]

1. why pavement, pray tell?

Because they're empty, and I'm empty.

 

[Jerry Twig]

you're cryptic more like!

 

[Dr Winston Umbogo]

anybody who has cried to a pavement tune, should be beaten with sticks. or any music for that matter. thank you.

 

[billygannon]

Because they're empty, and I'm empty.

Look... Pavement are grand. They're decent skins and they've some nice tunes. Just because they don't make you cry, doesn't mean you can come onto some Internet message board and act all high and mighty, saying they're a soulless bunch of fluffy Mikado biscuits.

They might not be "profound", or "deep", or "meaningful". They might be "indie for Westflies". But the reality is, and it's something that you, yes you, can't and won't admit...
More men and women have cried to Westlife songs than have cried to any of the meaningless tripe that's being subtlety championed here.

They may not wear their cardigans archly, they may have their tongue rolled and a cheeky grin as they warble at your heart strings, but they are what they are to those who want them to be what they want them to be.

And to many there are what you don't want them to be. And you may not be the person you want to be.

 

[Jerry Twig]

Look... Pavement are grand. They're decent skins and they've some nice tunes. Just because they don't make you cry, doesn't mean you can come onto some Internet message board and act all high and mighty, saying they're a soulless bunch of fluffy Mikado biscuits.

They might not be "profound", or "deep", or "meaningful". They might be "indie for Westflies". But the reality is, and it's something that you, yes you, can't and won't admit...
More men and women have cried to Westlife songs than have cried to any of the meaningless tripe that's being subtlety championed here.

They may not wear their cardigans archly, they may have their tongue rolled and a cheeky grin as they warble at your heart strings, but they are what they are to those who want them to be what they want them to be.

And to many there are what you don't want them to be. And you may not be the person you want to be.

so there

 

[billygannon]

so there

Yeah

 

[Dr Winston Umbogo]

betcha hes the type o' cunt who crys when hes fookin a bird.

 

[La La]

2) . nobody comes even remotely close to George Carlin.
.

and that spiel he did about the seven words you can't say on TV.

one of the best i ever heard, cried with laughter for days

 

[billygannon]

and that spiel he did about the seven words you can't say on TV.

one of the best i ever heard, cried with laughter for days

What are they?

 

[Osama Van Halen]

What are they?

1.MORMON
2.NAILER
3.DON'T
4.KNOW
5.SHIT
6.ABOUT
7.NOTHIN'
ALLAHQUANDO!!

 

[La La]

What are they?

shit
piss
tits
fuck
cunt
cocksucker
motherfucker


honestly you have to hear the take he did on it, its so funny

 

[Mormon Nailer]

Look... Pavement are grand. They're decent skins and they've some nice tunes. Just because they don't make you cry, doesn't mean you can come onto some Internet message board and act all high and mighty, saying they're a soulless bunch of fluffy Mikado biscuits.

They might not be "profound", or "deep", or "meaningful". They might be "indie for Westflies". But the reality is, and it's something that you, yes you, can't and won't admit...
More men and women have cried to Westlife songs than have cried to any of the meaningless tripe that's being subtlety championed here.

They may not wear their cardigans archly, they may have their tongue rolled and a cheeky grin as they warble at your heart strings, but they are what they are to those who want them to be what they want them to be.

And to many there are what you don't want them to be. And you may not be the person you want to be.

Grand. Grand. Grand, why didn't you just say Bland.

One of the indie totems of the past decade, with albums which are constantly towards the top of critics polls of the best albums of the decade, and after all that reverence and chinstroking their epitath is what? "here lies Pavement - they were grand".

Answer me this if you are not profound or deep or menaingful what is left that is worthwhile?

As to the rest of your post - I agree totally. I can and do admit it. The fact is that the sympathy we feel for the Westflies as you call em, the feeling that they would join us among the ranks of the enlightened if only they were given the opportunity, is completely misplaced. It ignores thee fact that much of what we hold dear musically is just as disposable and manufactured as any boy band. And worse than being disposable it is dishonest as well. Do you think a boy band would ever perpitrate an outrage on their audience like Sonic Youth did at ATP a couple of years ago?

No fucking way.

 

[billygannon]

Pavement gave up at the right time. The looked at themselves and said "happiness is no more - now we are happy".

Kim Gordon is a deranged bag-woman, and her husband, Thirsty Moore could be played by Anthony Head in a musical about Grecian 2000. Essentially they're the Harley Davidsons of alternative rock music. They need to replace the wheatgrass with lavendar and join Roger Waters in making poperas for the Volvo-drivers.

 

[billygannon]

And Westlife outraged thousands of people when at the O2 concert in the Phoenix Park in 2002.
I am referring to the one with pouting lips and dark hair - did you see his Flock of Seagulls 'do?
That is more outrageous than anything Sonic Youth did between 1996 and 2001.

 

[egg_]

3). Most people are in a band just to be in a band

I fucking doubt it. Ever been in a band? The glamour of it wears off pretty damn fast

 

[egg_]

p.s. Sadness is not the most important emotion. I love bands who make me dance, grin, send shivers up my spine or go "YEAH!" or "HOLY SHIT"

 

[hermie]

p.s. Sadness is not the most important emotion. I love bands who make me dance, grin, send shivers up my spine or go "YEAH!" or "HOLY SHIT"

right on

 

[billygannon]

I cried to a Hermie in Twwed song.

 

[snakybus]

I cried to Stoat's Christmas song