Straight Edge article in the Irish Times today? (4 Viewers)

[Vinnie]

In fairness drinking is no more a cultural movement than lunch so contrasts with sxe are sort of pointless. But nearly all generalisations about everything are completely wrong. Apart from that one.

 

[xConorx]

Complete and total load of shite.
First of because, again, the assumption that if one is a sXe he is also a pro-life campaigner is as bollox as saying that the Labour Party still has socialist ideals. There is actually a VERY high number, and the very big majority, of pro-choice sXe kids. Same goes with the usual Bible-bashing bullshit, that loads of people seem to be taking about recently, as it is a completely false and steretypical-base assumption just because now there are bands with sXe kids that happen also to be Christian. Religion and sXe are two separate things and it has been proven on how in Europe you will most certainly not find a Christian sXe band.

But then i don't understand where this criticism comes out from. The whole punk thing is just as stupid and the attitude some dickhead punks, and in Ireland there is a very good amount, is perhaps worse than the attitude of some sXe kids (and the holier than thou sXe kids are not that many in Ireland, as far as i know). And guess what? Just read carefully your own words: "the movement was bent massively out of shape by idiots who attached their own bullshit beliefs", this is pecisely the same criticism that can be thrown at punk because it's the EXACT same thing that happened to punk, yet i don't see any witch hunt going on against them. Why is that?

If people don't like sXe or sXe kids just make it clear, just say you don't like them. Don't try to find reasons to hate them, because chances are that the same reasons can be used against punks or skins or whoever you associate with.

Exactly, like, fuck sake I'm a class-struggle anarchist, and sure I find a lot of straightedge bands fuckin hilariously embarassing and with woefully appalling politics, doesn't mean I don't think straightedge makes sense.

To be honest I am still fascinated by 90s hardline mental shit.

 

[xConorx]

dave smalley alligned himself with the conservitive punk movement in the states and is still getting shit from it, sxe demigod that he is,MXPX took tons of shit for theit christian bollox they were spouting and you obviously were nt around for the Cro mags, shelter hare khrisna backlash that john joseph of the cro mags still goes on about to this day
i still rate YOT and gorilla buiscuits is strill the best gig i ever saw live but
sxe is a fucking joke
i ll ask again why has ian mc kaye completely distanced himself from straight edge, he lives the life but wants nothing to do with it WHY??

AHHHH HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA YOU FUCKIN IDIOT
Smalley became associated with conservativism LONG LONG LOOOOONG after he started drinking.
Christ you are a fucking muppet.

 

[xConorx]

And actually MacKaye doesn't quite distance himself from it. He stands by pretty much every word he wrote and thinks most straightedge kids are genuinely conscientious. That's all from the BBC interview he did a few years back - it's online somewhere from the Lamacq live show.

 

[AnarchoBob]

The 'True till death' documentary from BBC Radio One?

 

[Anarcho Munk]

AHHHH HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA YOU FUCKIN IDIOT
Smalley became associated with conservativism LONG LONG LOOOOONG after he started drinking.
Christ you are a fucking muppet.

Are you SURE he drinks?


Also, I was gonna respond to this thread but cesspool put it perfectly and i'd only be rehashing what he said.
This thread is fucking ridiculous, and yeh, some stupid stuff was said but it's not just damone. cop on the both of yis and stop looking threw shit tinted glasses.

 

[Willie Willions]

So whats the deal,straight edgers don't drink or do drugs but they smoke a bit of weed,right?









What about poppers?

Poppers are grand, and the odd white russian too.

 

[Cormcolash]

http://vimeo.com/1719921?pg=embed&sec=1719921

Ben Kingsley just keeps getting more and more amazing. What a legend.

 

[mr.blueface]

Actually he was around "back in the day". Long before you were, or I was for that matter.

you sir, are the one who looks like a knob here.

funny the dramatic straight edge has to bring knobs into the equation!!


is it true they all love to drink from the flute?

 

[cesspooldublin]

cop on the both of yis and stop looking threw shit tinted glasses.

someone needs to start a band called "THROUGH SHIT TINTED GLASSES"

 

[Cormcolash]

Definitely, i've got some tar from the tar-pit's, LET THE TARING COMMENCE!
I"M GONNA FIGHT YOU BENNETT, STRAIGHT EDGE HOOLIGAN TOSSER

STRAIGHT EDGE OUT, FLAGONS IN

This is what you'll get hippy

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Pretty sure that guy's straightedge too, he even has a big X tattoo'ed on his chest.

 

[skubol]

fucking hell.
http://www.moshspace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5329
the straight edge kid who start this thread propably will start to drink after reading what others wrote about him. fell sorry for him.

 

[mr.blueface]

again, your initial point was the rediculous assertion "worldwide its growing at a frightening pace ,and its the shithead rightwing end of it for the most part"
Now given that pretty much every sxe kid in Ireland, UK, Europe in the 10yrs I've been edge has been pc as fuck and most certainly not right-wing your bullshit assertion is pretty fuckin laughable, and that's not to mention the countless bands that stayed with us over the years or shows I worked at.
Your opinion is baseless shit relying on a charicature from a few older bands, most of whom, (with the exception of ExC and some of Vegan Reich) haven't been straightedge in a long, long time.

I've had way more shit off drunk people in my life than sober, let alone straightedge people.

Still, good to hear another weedy baseless fuckin rant about straightedge relying on internet myths and not actually based in real experience.

i doubt ppl tryin to get u to drink is seen as one of lifes hardships. and knowning every detail about a band isnt exactly impressive or good arguement!!

 

[cesspooldublin]

fucking hell.
http://www.moshspace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5329
the straight edge kid who start this thread propably will start to drink after reading what others wrote about him. fell sorry for him.

I didn't really understand any of that but on a side note, there's a bit where they're talking about being "false negi" .. so..hang on.."negi" hardcore is in now is it? it's cool to be a negative about things?

Jesus lads, my day has finally come!.|..| To Moshspace I go!

 

[mr.blueface]

i think its stupid to mention bands whn it come to a life choice, of course ppl can be influenced, but to throw out band name hoping that it will be enough to have a good arguement, end of the line is ppl who take anything to an extreme will piss off everyone else, esp in religion

 

[AnarchoBob]

Does 'negi-core' come under the crusty family? Cos crust is pretty negative and I met an English crusty lass that was a sXe. True story. Is she 'negi-core' then?

 

[the strange guy]

Straight Edge is grand.
Self-righteous straight edgers, like every other bunch of preachers,
are total pricks.
I couldn't give a shit about what anyone does as long as they don't
start telling me I'm doing something wrong or I can't hang out and
take the piss out of them!

 

[skubol]

Does 'negi-core' come under the crusty family? Cos crust is pretty negative and I met an English crusty lass that was a sXe. True story. Is she 'negi-core' then?

i know many crusty straight edgers. it was quite popular thing in late nineties in poland.

 

[Cormcolash]

What's popular in Poland now a days?

 

[the strange guy]

Being gay?