Straight Edge article in the Irish Times today? (2 Viewers)

[damone]

Who's the shithead right-wing end? You ever met any?

I assume you were about 'back in the day'

You total fuckin knob.

earth crisis , nope never met them but they are shitheads ,anybody who thinks they can force their views on people is !
yes im old what the fuck has that got to do with it?
havnt been called a knob in a good while thanks

 

[killy kill]

xlolzx

 

[GARYXKNIFEDX]

Someone just drag up the million other threads on the topic of straight edge and save everyone the bother.
I personally have never met anyone who calls themselves straight edge that has forced their view on anyone. I have however had tons of abuse from drinkers trying to make me drink. Even had people try to spike my drinks in the past.

 

[damone]

Someone just drag up the million other threads on the topic of straight edge and save everyone the bother.
I personally have never met anyone who calls themselves straight edge that has forced their view on anyone. I have however had tons of abuse from drinkers trying to make me drink. Even had people try to spike my drinks in the past.

agreed on you re first point ,ive seen plenty of drinkers slagging others cause of not drinkin and thats just sad, but straight edge never really took off here so youd hardly meet any here who are gonna give you the high and mighty SLAPSHOT trip.SSD, vegan reich and good ol earth crisis , sure its just like taking the pledge!!
listen to CRUCIAL YOUTH -the posi machine ,explains it all

 

[killy kill]

leave ssd and slapshot out of it

 

[bombidol]

agreed on you re first point ,ive seen plenty of drinkers slagging others cause of not drinkin and thats just sad, but straight edge never really took off here so youd hardly meet any here who are gonna give you the high and mighty SLAPSHOT trip.SSD, vegan reich and good ol earth crisis , sure its just like taking the pledge!!
listen to CRUCIAL YOUTH -the posi machine ,explains it all

Few of them heads around.

 

[xConorx]

earth crisis , nope never met them but they are shitheads ,anybody who thinks they can force their views on people is !
yes im old what the fuck has that got to do with it?
havnt been called a knob in a good while thanks

Earth Crisis? That's your example of "worldwide its growing at a frightening pace ,and its the shithead rightwing end of it for the most part" - a band that split 7yrs ago, and only recently got back together and basically completely a-political now.
That's your example of the worldwide growth of rightwing straightedge?

Forcing their views on people? What views were these? Given that they toured with some of the most un-PC, un-sxe, un-vegan bands going (skarhead for one) when they were I'm not actually sure what you're basing this on, at all.

Sure their politics were appalling, but given that most of the punk scene, including the irish punk scene is full of reactionary wankers with piss-poor politics I'd say your observation is fairly moot.

Get fucking real.

 

[xConorx]

agreed on you re first point ,ive seen plenty of drinkers slagging others cause of not drinkin and thats just sad, but straight edge never really took off here so youd hardly meet any here who are gonna give you the high and mighty SLAPSHOT trip.SSD, vegan reich and good ol earth crisis , sure its just like taking the pledge!!
listen to CRUCIAL YOUTH -the posi machine ,explains it all

again, your initial point was the rediculous assertion "worldwide its growing at a frightening pace ,and its the shithead rightwing end of it for the most part"
Now given that pretty much every sxe kid in Ireland, UK, Europe in the 10yrs I've been edge has been pc as fuck and most certainly not right-wing your bullshit assertion is pretty fuckin laughable, and that's not to mention the countless bands that stayed with us over the years or shows I worked at.
Your opinion is baseless shit relying on a charicature from a few older bands, most of whom, (with the exception of ExC and some of Vegan Reich) haven't been straightedge in a long, long time.

I've had way more shit off drunk people in my life than sober, let alone straightedge people.

Still, good to hear another weedy baseless fuckin rant about straightedge relying on internet myths and not actually based in real experience.

 

[GO]

DING DING! No gouging.

 

[xMac Kellx]

STRAIGHT EDGE WOOO YEAH FUCK THE SYSTEM

 

[killy kill]

jesus , heavy metal is shit

 

[holly_rackis]

i always see young ones on bebo claiming to be SXE but i think they mean something else

 

[directhit]

as usual, most people do not have a clue what sXe was, is.

 

[Willie Willions]

Sure it's just a bit of a laugh, like.

 

[damone]

how a movement like str8 edge can evolve from gettin underage kids into gigs into a anti drink,drugs,pro-life bunch of middle class boys and their better than you ,right wing ,kick box dancing , look down you re nose at others gang of cunts is pathetic
and by right wing i dont mean blood and honour ,i mean bible bashing ,creationist,little bit too close to mormon town Salt lake city or hare khrisna finger pointing pricks
all the str8 edgers i know who have been non drinkers for fuckin years by the way dont feel the need to go round telling others its their choice and it works for them , they dont regard themselves as str8 edge cause they realise the movement was bent massively out of shape by idiots who attached their own bullshit beliefs
why do you think minor threat distance themselves totally from the edge now ? "some day youll look back and laugh"

 

[Cormcolash]

You're all fucking dead losers! That hitler T-Shirt rules! So does this:

 

[Break Neck Speed]

The friend posts on moshspace as Saul2something. There's a huge Yousendit thread on there, it's run by straightedgers, hmmm. I think someone mixed up supporting the scene and robbing off the net.

Yeah totally.

 

[kleft]

they dont regard themselves as str8 edge cause they realise the movement was bent massively out of shape by idiots who attached their own bullshit beliefs

yeah, usually when it comes up in conversation i have to say
"yeah, technically i'm straight edge but don't worry, i'm not a faggot about it."

 

[AnarchoBob]

how a movement like str8 edge can evolve from gettin underage kids into gigs into a anti drink,drugs,pro-life bunch of middle class boys and their better than you ,right wing ,kick box dancing , look down you re nose at others gang of cunts is pathetic
and by right wing i dont mean blood and honour ,i mean bible bashing ,creationist,little bit too close to mormon town Salt lake city or hare khrisna finger pointing pricks
all the str8 edgers i know who have been non drinkers for fuckin years by the way dont feel the need to go round telling others its their choice and it works for them , they dont regard themselves as str8 edge cause they realise the movement was bent massively out of shape by idiots who attached their own bullshit beliefs
why do you think minor threat distance themselves totally from the edge now ? "some day youll look back and laugh"

Complete and total load of shite.
First of because, again, the assumption that if one is a sXe he is also a pro-life campaigner is as bollox as saying that the Labour Party still has socialist ideals. There is actually a VERY high number, and the very big majority, of pro-choice sXe kids. Same goes with the usual Bible-bashing bullshit, that loads of people seem to be taking about recently, as it is a completely false and steretypical-base assumption just because now there are bands with sXe kids that happen also to be Christian. Religion and sXe are two separate things and it has been proven on how in Europe you will most certainly not find a Christian sXe band.

But then i don't understand where this criticism comes out from. The whole punk thing is just as stupid and the attitude some dickhead punks, and in Ireland there is a very good amount, is perhaps worse than the attitude of some sXe kids (and the holier than thou sXe kids are not that many in Ireland, as far as i know). And guess what? Just read carefully your own words: "the movement was bent massively out of shape by idiots who attached their own bullshit beliefs", this is pecisely the same criticism that can be thrown at punk because it's the EXACT same thing that happened to punk, yet i don't see any witch hunt going on against them. Why is that?

If people don't like sXe or sXe kids just make it clear, just say you don't like them. Don't try to find reasons to hate them, because chances are that the same reasons can be used against punks or skins or whoever you associate with.

 

[Denver Max]

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