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steve albino
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ElderLemon said:There are irregularities in any election - and yes, there will be those on both sides who try to perpetrate fraud or influence the vote by dirty tricks. No system is perfect, and unfortunately some of the partisans aren't either.
However, as I have shown, it seems most unlikely that there was any systematic organised fraud useing e-vote machines - the most likely method of rigging the vote as fraud w8ill generally follow the path of least resistance.
We'll wait and see...
Again, let's be clear on what we're talking about - not just irregularities but quite obvious cases of incompetence and ill-will which are overwhelmingly in Bush's favour - from the vote machine catastrophe, to the people who tried to deter others from voting/excercising the right to vote, to the remarkably early capitulation of Kerry, to the refusal of international observers etc. etc.
We're not talking about a perfect process with a couple of banal glitches, we're talking about a systematic privatisation (equals immune to public scutiny) for profit, of an electoral system by people who are part of the Bush administration's inner circle.
At least that's what I'm talking about.
As for the path of least resistance - what resistance? Who resisted? Kerry? No. The Democrats? No. Don't confuse complaining after the fact with resisting. If there had been any real "resistance" then the vote would still be undecided and we'd be waiting out the official minimum legal period of 11 days so all of the votes could be counted. That seems like a basic principle for elections - count the votes, recount them and don't take any dumb risks with something so important. A privatised voting system as fucked as the one now in place means you don't need systematic fraud, the ensuing chaos is so easily manipulated - with a little help from friends in the media (and before the cry of "conspiracy" starts -2 words: Fox News). Jesus, how much easier could it have been?
You want resistance? This is resistance - after the biggest Freedom of information act request ever made was filed by "Blackbox Voting" to have access to state records to investigate what happened they came back with this:
We need: Lawyers to enforce public records laws. Some counties have already notified us that they plan to stonewall by delaying delivery of the records.