Israel offered to sell South Africa the bomb (1 Viewer)

[steve albino]

Israel offered to sell South Africa the bomb


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/23/israel-south-africa-nuclear-weapons

Secret South African documents reveal that Israel offered to sell nuclear warheads to the apartheid regime, providing the first official documentary evidence of the state's possession of nuclear weapons.
The "top secret" minutes of meetings between senior officials from the two countries in 1975 show that South Africa's defence minister, PW Botha, asked for the warheads and Shimon Peres, then Israel's defence minister and now its president, responded by offering them "in three sizes". The two men also signed a broad-ranging agreement governing military ties between the two countries that included a clause declaring that "the very existence of this agreement" was to remain secret.
The documents, uncovered by an American academic, Sasha Polakow-Suransky, in research for a book on the close relationship between the two countries, provide evidence that Israel has nuclear weapons despite its policy of "ambiguity" in neither confirming nor denying their existence.
The Israeli authorities tried to stop South Africa's post-apartheid government declassifying the documents at Polakow-Suransky's request and the revelations will be an embarrassment, particularly as this week's nuclear non-proliferation talks in New York focus on the Middle East.
They will also undermine Israel's attempts to suggest that, if it has nuclear weapons, it is a "responsible" power that would not misuse them, whereas countries such as Iran cannot be trusted.

 

[D0njo]

Fuck sake

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

what in the fuck would south africa want with nukes?

 

[steve albino]

Israel was South Africa's principal and most dependable arms dealer. As we learn elsewhere in the Guardian today, it even offered to sell the South African regime nuclear weapons."Throughout the 70s and 80s Israel had a deep, intimate and lucrative relationship with South Africa," explains Sasha Polakow-Suransky, author of The Unspoken Alliance: Israel's Secret Relationship With Apartheid South Africa. "Israel's arms supplies helped to prolong the apartheid regime's rule and to survive international sanctions."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/may/24/israel-goldstone-apartheid-south-africa

 

[Lili Marlene]

according to a website linked from jimcorr.com

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/0...ation-in-dubai-israelis-warning-to-the-world/

"historical researchers" are "now putting the murders of President Kennedy and his brother Robert at the hands of Israel "

 

[steve albino]

The memos and minutes that confirm Israel's nuclear stockpile

Documents reveal how then-defence minister Shimon Perez tried to sell South Africa's apartheid government the bomb


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/23/israel-south-africa-nuclear-documents


and in particular:


This is the cover page and two other pages from the secret military agreement between Israel and South Africa, signed by both Shimon Peres and Botha. Note on page two there is a clause that says the very existence of the agreement is secret. Both men have signed the agreement on page three.


http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Guardian/documents/2010/05/23/Israel-SAagreement.pdf

 

[Carlow Punks!]

newly revealed, old levels of cuntage

 

[Cormcolash]

South Africa need nukes to defend themselves against the Prawns in fairness

 

[Scientician 0.8]

what in the fuck would south africa want with nukes?

During the 1970's in the last phase of decolonisation, Marxist and other leftwing governments ruled several other Southern African countries and were bolstered by Soviet and Cuban supplies of arms and other resources. In the same period, the white minority ruled Rhodesian government was overthrown by Mugabe et al, and they were (at least nominally) Marxist and very much against the Apartheid régime. Basically the white South Africans were surrounded by enemies, something they had in common with Israel, and they wanted an ace, just in case. They later went on to develop their own nukes, but IIRC they dismantled them when régime change was imminent in SA.

 

[D0njo]

Holy crumbs.. I wish I wasn't merely a reactionary and actually knew what was was going on.. I WONDER HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE BEEN ON THE BRINK MAN

 

[steve albino]

Apartheid-era minister carried 'nuclear trigger' in hand luggage to South Africa

Eschel Rhoodie transported device used to detonate atomic bombs on flight from Israel in mid-70s, say journalists


An apartheid-era cabinet minister carried a "nuclear trigger" to South Africa from Israel as part of Pretoria's efforts to build an atom bomb, according to a report in a Johannesburg newspaper.
Two renowned South African journalists have revealed that Eschel Rhoodie, the apartheid government's information minister who played a central role in establishing military ties to Israel, privately described in 1979 how he had transported "the trigger" as hand luggage on a flight from Tel Aviv. But they say they were unable to publish the account at the time because of censorship and the former minister's concerns for his safety.
Allister Sparks – who in the 70s was editor of the influential but now defunct Rand Daily Mail – said he decided to go public with Rhoodie's admission, despite previous guarantees of secrecy, following last week's revelations in the Guardian and in a new book, The Unspoken Alliance, that Israel offered to sell nuclear warheads to apartheid South Africa.
Writing in the Business Day newspaper, Sparks said Rhoodie travelled regularly to Israel in the mid-70s, and on occasions was accompanied by South Africa's then intelligence chief, Hendrik van den Bergh...


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/03/south-africa-nuclear-trigger-israel

 

[steve albino]

jesus...this is pretty low

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/04/we-are-the-world-vir.html