Final Fantasy - full line-up for Vicar St (1 Viewer)

[rettucs]

Aye, kinda what I thought at the Electric Picnic. 'S cool and all, but gets boring after a while. I walked out half way though. That Andrew Bird really annoys me for the same reason, the whole looping and building stuff just takes over and becomes really uninteresting very quickly. I liked Dosh, though, but his set whenever that time he played Crawdaddy was short.

Dosh's set that night was boring as hell.

 

[potlatch]

Yeah? I liked it. I kinda meant that if the set was any longer it'd have got mad boring.

 

[Moods For Mallards]

Dosh's set that night was boring as hell.

Dosh is as boring as hell. He is useful to Andrew Bird because the guy has an obvious talent at gadgets and loops and whatever, and all this can enhance Bird's music. However, left to his own devices it's just a series of stunts and tricks with no intrinsic merit.

 

[Alan Remorse]

IMHO - Dosh, Andrew Bird and Miracle Fortress are all a million times better than Final Fantasy. IMHO

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Thats the trap of those loop pedals and it happens to Dosh and Andrew Bird as well. It can be really repetitive - like this is great, but its great just like the last song.

indeed.
same thing happens at Juana Molina and Colleen gigs...
i suppose is cheaper to tour with one of these -

than with a band....?

i blame...

 

[Unicron]

indeed.
same thing happens at Juana Molina and Colleen gigs...
i suppose is cheaper to tour with one of these -

than with a band....?

He's retired that. His new setup involves keys and violin into an iBook running linux to handle the loops then sending it out to a quadrophonic amp setup.

 

[coast to coast]

Still gonna buy one of them loopstations if I ever get the cash, despite my dissing of them.

As for the curse of the looping pedal - it might get repetitive but Andrew Bird and Owen Pallett are still incredibly good at making it interesting.

There's another girl called Joanna Barwick who does it with vocals that's also pretty good.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

He's retired that. His new setup involves keys and violin into an iBook running linux to handle the loops then sending it out to a quadrophonic amp setup.

aha! well he was still using the RC20 when i saw him last year.
new setup sounds overly complex/prone to glitching/etc.

would love to see some of these fuckers play unplugged!
would there be anything there at all at all at all.....

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Still gonna buy one of them loopstations if I ever get the cash, despite my dissing of them.

As for the curse of the looping pedal - it might get repetitive but Andrew Bird and Owen Pallett are still incredibly good at making it interesting.

There's another girl called Joanna Barwick who does it with vocals that's also pretty good.

them pedals are good crack alright but it can get a bit tedious basing a whole gig around one....

granted you could say that about any instrument

 

[jimmybreeze]

Thought he was only class,incredibly good at what he does,such a talented git!

Still,I think my favourite loop based live sets has to be Jamie Liddell
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo5n3jvdQxk&feature=related"]YouTube - Jamie Lidell - live at Glastonbury[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkuiWgPzQwg"]YouTube - Jamie Lidell - Live at the Royal Festival Hall London 2004[/ame]

 

[coast to coast]

them pedals are good crack alright but it can get a bit tedious basing a whole gig around one....

granted you could say that about any instrument

Thats kinda what I meant to say except I didn't!

A lot of band's just have one or two modes or sounds and they can pull it off. In fact it sometimes concentrates things and makes them better to have such specific limitations or parameters, like say the White Stripes in what I consider their peak (White Blood Cells & Elephant).

 

[Unicron]

aha! well he was still using the RC20 when i saw him last year.
new setup sounds overly complex/prone to glitching/etc.

Yeah, it was only the first or second time he's ever gigged with it last night. He still has the RC-20 on his board as a backup in the event of crashes.

would love to see some of these fuckers play unplugged!
would there be anything there at all at all at all.....

He did a session with those take away shows bloggeotech people a few months back playing tunes out and about in Paris, just the violin and singing, no loops.

I will say one thing for the loop station, it's a great compositional tool in terms of trying other parts out on top of something you've written.

 

[the departed]

loops rule.
battles? don cab?
yes.

 

[Alan Remorse]

I will say one thing for the loop station, it's a great compositional tool in terms of trying other parts out on top of something you've written.

Yeah I have a Line6 and I rarely use it live, but i'm always using it at home for writing.

 

[ronan]

Yeah I have a Line6 and I rarely use it live

that's just because the others won't let you and you're scared of them

 

[Alan Remorse]

Have you seen Dave? He's massive!

 

[egg_]

them pedals are good crack alright but it can get a bit tedious basing a whole gig around one ...

Ah now lads! Every rock band ever is loop-based, the only difference is the loops are played live on real instruments so you don't hear the thing being built up.

 

[ronan]

Have you seen Dave? He's massive!

i haven't seen him in that way, no.

on subject, Final Fantasy was decent last night.
enjoyable.
i'm not a massive fan either way.
went more for Miracle Fortress.
MF very different live than on record...a lot more percussive, doesn't have the same amazing sheen.
still good though.
woulda preferred to see them play a longer set instead of getting yer wan to do an impromptu set...what was her name?

still managed to catch 8 or 9 songs of High On Fire .|..|