Cancelled (4 Viewers)

[Kermit McDermott]

It's a pity people feel they have to apologize for everything now because of the fear of being cancelled by a bunch of pricks on social media.

 

[ann post]

Is she outside wilson hospital school yet. That photoshop is probably in the pipeline.

I just had a scan at twitter and considering the delicacy of the topic it's like a contact lens in moshpit type atmostphere at present.

 

[therealjohnny]

They're accusing her of homophia now

 

[Deadmanposting]

They're accusing her of homophia now
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Just scrolling through the Twitter
And it's almost all dudes coming at her, almost all women who are defending her

 

[GO]

what a pile on

I hope she takes the twitter app off her phone

 

[ann post]

For science:

At time of apology she had 69.1K Followers.
At time of writing she has 69.3K Followers.

 

[therealjohnny]

For science:

At time of apology she had 69.1K Followers.
At time of writing she has 69.3K Followers.

"Borne aloft on a sea of transphobe support " as some twitter- famous guy I follow said

 

[Deadmanposting]

Takeaways

• The framing that people like Roisin aren't people you disagree with, but rather a threat to vulnerable people, elicits a very strong response
• People like bonding over something they hate more than something they love
• Give people something to hate with impunity, and they'll go hell for leather
• The two-minutes-hate aspect of 1984 was pretty good insight into humans
• Most people will dump an artist like a hot snot once they have baggage, and that's hilarious

I want to apologise to the very decent, kind and smart @Cornu Ammonis for getting a little too into it with him, with the 500 word responses and so on.
We have different perspectives. And I do fucking go on a bit.
More important than that is that Thumped is an outlet for us to come and have a laugh and the odd barney. I don't want to be someone that's ruining it for others. Honestly.

 

[ernesto]

If only she'd been more talented

 

[Kermit McDermott]

She's also a far right environmentalist who is against the cutting of turf.
So she's pro terf and anti turf.

 

[Kermit McDermott]

The real problem is all the poxy sanctimonious millennials & zoomers on twitter.

 

[ann post]

For science:

At time of apology she had 69.1K Followers.
At time of writing she has 69.3K Followers.

69.4K


On a more trying to learn about it as much as I can point of view I found one article about how things are going in Finland and to be honest it sort of hummed with an underlying bias I wasn't 100% comfortable with so i didn't share it here - but also touched on stats that I'm going to have to find justification for too - TLDR they used the Dutch model as well - but there were patterns emerging around (again) social media influence on young people that they weren't totally comfortable with.

I probably go on a bit too - It helps me think and I tend not to write a word unless i've done my homework, which means i do my homework so it helps me think more...

 

[ann post]

The real problem is all the poxy sanctimonious millennials & zoomers on twitter.

From reading around so far

England, Finland and USA have all mentioned social media influence as a factor that is clouding care paths for young people who are both trans and questioning. It's not nothing.

 

[ann post]

69.4K

TLDR they used the Dutch model as well - but there were patterns emerging around (again) social media influence on young people that they weren't totally comfortable with.

Ok ended up in Denmark instead -

It's long clunky official sounding stuff, but it's an interesting insight into how it looks from the institutional side, the global medical politics going on and the walking on eggshells that goes with the territory. I don't know much about this website but like - they are at least just collating information. TLDR the Dutch Model was small scope and possibly over applied and now countries are evolving it.

Denmark Joins the List of Countries That Have Sharply Restricted Youth Gender Transitions

A major medical journal Ugeskrift for Læger, the Journal of the Danish Medical Association, confirmed that there has been a marked shift in the country’s approach to caring for youth with gender dysphoria. Most youth referred to the centralized gender clinic no longer get a prescription for...

segm.org

 

[Cormcolash]

In cynical soccer terms - there did seem to be some conflict between players and managers towards the end. The players will be about for years so keeping the bad blood either means ousting a good squad or throwing the manager under the bus, either way soccer likes to roll heads

Before she took over, the players were playing completely amateur shit and not going anywhere - so the players can shut the fuck up, basically.

 

[ann post]

Before she took over, the players were playing completely amateur shit and not going anywhere - so the players can shut the fuck up, basically.

Aye, I don't think it's right like, i think it's what soccer likes to do.
Was i the PL last year that you'd have wanted a subs bench for managers there was so much fucking about with media sacrifices?

 

[JohnnyRaz]

Before she took over, the players were playing completely amateur shit and not going anywhere - so the players can shut the fuck up, basically.

is its time to bring back steve staunton?

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

Takeaways

• The framing that people like Roisin aren't people you disagree with, but rather a threat to vulnerable people, elicits a very strong response
• People like bonding over something they hate more than something they love
• Give people something to hate with impunity, and they'll go hell for leather
• The two-minutes-hate aspect of 1984 was pretty good insight into humans
• Most people will dump an artist like a hot snot once they have baggage, and that's hilarious

I want to apologise to the very decent, kind and smart @Cornu Ammonis for getting a little too into it with him, with the 500 word responses and so on.
We have different perspectives. And I do fucking go on a bit.
More important than that is that Thumped is an outlet for us to come and have a laugh and the odd barney. I don't want to be someone that's ruining it for others. Honestly.

I’m at a conference the last couple of days but I meant to reply to your last post. I actually think we’re largely agreeing on most stuff (though I might have phrased it poorly) but absolutely no harm done. I don’t think you or anyone else here is acting in bad faith.

 

[ann post]

Having read reports from healthcare people in 4 western world countries my % of what is real / questionable and long term for the better for both trans and disphoric kids is siding with Roisín Murphy. I am now officially cancelled.

 

[egg_]

Denmark Joins the List of Countries That Have Sharply Restricted Youth Gender Transitions

A major medical journal Ugeskrift for Læger, the Journal of the Danish Medical Association, confirmed that there has been a marked shift in the country’s approach to caring for youth with gender dysphoria. Most youth referred to the centralized gender clinic no longer get a prescription for...

segm.org

Wow. So between this and Tavistock it seems reasonable to say that the medical profession is trying to balance supporting actually-trans youth on the one hand, and helping otherwise-distressed youth who have self-diagnosed, and incorrectly think that a gender transition will solve their problems, on the other