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I thought “Stormwatch” had potential to a real time thriller of a thread, but it ended up quite disappointing. It might be lucky to get a third page. Of course it had to be @pete who brought back a 20 year-old “building a new pc” thread. a niche crowd, but in it for life. Will be interesting...

So I am re-evaluating in middle-age - accept market value or haggle? If you see a second hand record you really want but it is 20% over-valued, do you buy it, leave it, or haggle? If you haggle, is it principled or pragmatic? Have you mellowed over time or is it a time-honoured tradition?

Not the BEST punk song ever, but what is the MOST punk song ever? Of course it could be one and the same. I’ll get the ball rolling:

I just watched C’mon C’mon, which was passable enough, but the highlight was definitely spotting the sister’s Minutemen t-shirt. Honorable mention to the brother listening to Pink Flag on the stereo!

And why not? Let's have something different, and discuss how great music still sounds great 60+ years on. This is a good entry point for people less inclined to jazz.

I’ll start by setting the bar high

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Blatter - you like that one Cormac?! The only thing to get excited about is Judge and Arter really, but nice to see some new names. Why in the name of Jesus are Green and Cox getting a look in though? Surely give Rooney at Aberdeen a look in up front? That front line wouldn't inspire...

It's a funny one. A friend stayed over for a while and bought me a new album by Patti Smith - Banga, thinking that's the kind of thing I'd be into. I'd never fork out on a new Patti Smith record, I wouldn't even give it a spin. And yet, it's mostly great. I guess my point is that sometimes...

"Out of fog comes clarity" - go on George, you heart-attack merchant. Look at the happy head on Robbie 'Unbelievable' Brady in the last three matches - that's all of us!! I can't wait for the draw - hope we get England, Switzerland and Hungary. I wish we could play the bloody thing...

'Willy Brandt and Lech Wałęsa' says Corm in disgust, 'where's Goebbels and Pope John Paul II?' Well I think we need to extend the olive branch this time, and in the tradition of their Nobel Peace Prize winning compatriots, hope that they approach these games in a spirit of friendliness and...

37-man squad announced, to be shortened to 23. A place for Eunan O'Kane, who looked decent against Liverpool last night, and the return of Cunningham, who I hope can stay in the squad as by all accounts he;s doing well at Preston and we need a proper left back. No place for Grealish yet...

Fuck yeah! Wales, Austria, Serbia, Ireland, Moldova, Georgia

Who needs 90s bequiffed pop-socked Grealish to do the business (on the one hand he said September so we should respect that, on the other get your finger and nail your colours to a mast) when we have have of our squad in next year's Championship. Watch out across the water, you're fucked. Six...

I hear Father Clippit still does a good long mass. A great tip-of-the-hat here: Father Ted’s legacy, 20 years on: up with this sort of thing | Television & radio | The Guardian

Have you put on any music recently that you hadn't listened to in years? I just dug out Unknown Pleasures by Joy Division and I have to say I never enjoyed that the record. Well, I still don't.

They keep that one quiet, don't they?! Both Whelan and Hoolahan injured - what will Dunphy have to complain about now? I;d trade that in a heartbeat to have Coleman and McCarthy back. Man, I am really looking to this one.

Good times in camp Ireland! Mind you, there's no actual quotes in the article, but it's popping up in other sources so hopefully it's true. What were we saying about having too many midfielders these days? All we need now is for the Cattle to say he's shite and we're laughing... Martin O’Neill...

At what point do they piss you off? Gorilla Biscuits Pet T Shirt anyone?

Fucking hell Tony Galvin (yes, that is actually Tony Galvin)