dunno. He's a prick but he's some competitor. Some going to be able to still be taking stages at this age of his life.
I was warming to him briefly, then Vinikourov ran in when he was being interviewed. Fucking filthy team Astana.
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I was warming to him briefly, then Vinikourov ran in when he was being interviewed. Fucking filthy team Astana.
shitepipe
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Right. I never liked him. But now, I kinda do. Whatever about it, it does take some fucking doggedness to get a stage win at 39.
Sir Cav did a brilliant sprint weaving through and following the wheels mostly without team mates.
Not a fan but that was his best win for long years.
Cavendish won't stay dead will he?
Retired last year, didn't win a race for three years before 2021, then only got selected for 2021 Tour cause Sam and Jakobsen were injured then Ewen crashed in first sprint finish and then there were no top sprinters left (Gronewegen (sic) was also banned for Jakobsen accident).
Tim Merlier and Jonathan Milan are better than any sprinters at the Tour. Expect Philipsen to come good though.
ITV 4 Tour stage 5 highlights just beginning now.
Not a fan but that was his best win for long years.
Cavendish won't stay dead will he?
Retired last year, didn't win a race for three years before 2021, then only got selected for 2021 Tour cause Sam and Jakobsen were injured then Ewen crashed in first sprint finish and then there were no top sprinters left (Gronewegen (sic) was also banned for Jakobsen accident).
Tim Merlier and Jonathan Milan are better than any sprinters at the Tour. Expect Philipsen to come good though.
ITV 4 Tour stage 5 highlights just beginning now.
Sam is so far off the pace at the moment. I had higher hopes for him for a stage this tour but he's not in the mix at all.
25th place in as clear-cut a sprint finish you'll ever see in a stage.
Disappointing.
25th place in as clear-cut a sprint finish you'll ever see in a stage.
Disappointing.
Today Sam lost his lead out man completely and didn't bother starting his sprint.
The day Girmay won Sam got a great lead out and finished 9th was it?
he got boxed in that day and didn't sprint all the way to the line.
so he has a 9th, 15th and 25th on the 3 sprint stages so far.
one win could change everything of course. Still 5 stages left for the sprinters.
yesterday was such a shit stage. no significant breakaway all day. It looked like lads out training, until the last 20km.
Only interesting moment was the echelon which caught out all 7 of Pogacar's of team mates but no one else important and after about 12 minutes they just eased off and the peloton regrouped.
Cavendish had a mechanical just as the brief moment of chaos started and a commissar was telling a panic stricken Cav off when he had close 90+ second gap.
Raphael Geminiani (12 June 1924 - 5 July 2024)
One of the outstanding figures in French cycling has died aged 99.
He was at the heart of French cycling every step of the way from the 1940's until he finished as a team manager in 1986 (w/ Cafe de Colombia).
He finished 2nd, 3rd, 4th + 6th in the Tour and won 8 stages but Gem was hampered by having to work for Louison Bobet (also born in 1925) in the days of national teams
In 1958 he came close but lost to Luxembourg's Charly Gaul. Gem cursed French riders for not helping him in what became known as 'The Judas Tour'.
Despite being a superb grand tour rider Raphael won few other races.
Gem traveled to Upper Volta (Burkina Faso) in December 1959 with Fausto Coppi for some races and a hunt trip.
On returning home to Claremont -Ferrand Geminiani became gravely ill and was eventually diagnosed with malaria. The news was sent to Piedmont where an diagnosed Coppi was dying but it was too late to save Fausto who died on The 4 January 1960 aged 40.
Malaria all but ended Geminiani's cycling career.
From 1960 under his management Gem's St. Raphael (apertif drink) team dominated cycling winning the Tour 1961-64 with Anquetil among many other races. Elliot, Stablinski, Simpson, Altig where among his riders.
When Anquetil set a World Hour Record Geminiani was banned for punching a dope tester - then a rare breed.
After the Anquetil era Gem continued managing teams inc. Roche's La Radoute team guiding Stefan to 3rd in the 1985 Tour.
Gem also worked with several other Tour winners Aimar, Ocana and an over the hill Merckx (1977).
Raphael was a big personality and raconteur whose quotes often graced old cycling mags and books. He seemed to have every semi significant rider who raced in France since the war sized up.
Many he spoke of warmly and others less so saying another lad from Claremont - Romain Bardet - was too thin - especially his arse.
Raphael was still a cycling obsessive in his 90's and often complained at how predictable modern racing is.
Gem was no doubt heavily involved in doping and saw little wrong with it and said as much.
In 1955 Raphael was one of the first riders to finished to finish all three grand tours - 3rd in Vuelta, 4th in Giro and 6th in the Tour.
Geminiani's team mate / rival Bobet died in 1983 and Anquetil in 1987. Late Irish cyclist Raphael Kimmage was named after Gem.
www.procyclingstats.com
Excellent English wiki article w/ lots of quotes:
Huge French wiki entry:
www.cyclingnews.com
One of the outstanding figures in French cycling has died aged 99.
He was at the heart of French cycling every step of the way from the 1940's until he finished as a team manager in 1986 (w/ Cafe de Colombia).
He finished 2nd, 3rd, 4th + 6th in the Tour and won 8 stages but Gem was hampered by having to work for Louison Bobet (also born in 1925) in the days of national teams
In 1958 he came close but lost to Luxembourg's Charly Gaul. Gem cursed French riders for not helping him in what became known as 'The Judas Tour'.
Despite being a superb grand tour rider Raphael won few other races.
Gem traveled to Upper Volta (Burkina Faso) in December 1959 with Fausto Coppi for some races and a hunt trip.
On returning home to Claremont -Ferrand Geminiani became gravely ill and was eventually diagnosed with malaria. The news was sent to Piedmont where an diagnosed Coppi was dying but it was too late to save Fausto who died on The 4 January 1960 aged 40.
Malaria all but ended Geminiani's cycling career.
From 1960 under his management Gem's St. Raphael (apertif drink) team dominated cycling winning the Tour 1961-64 with Anquetil among many other races. Elliot, Stablinski, Simpson, Altig where among his riders.
When Anquetil set a World Hour Record Geminiani was banned for punching a dope tester - then a rare breed.
After the Anquetil era Gem continued managing teams inc. Roche's La Radoute team guiding Stefan to 3rd in the 1985 Tour.
Gem also worked with several other Tour winners Aimar, Ocana and an over the hill Merckx (1977).
Raphael was a big personality and raconteur whose quotes often graced old cycling mags and books. He seemed to have every semi significant rider who raced in France since the war sized up.
Many he spoke of warmly and others less so saying another lad from Claremont - Romain Bardet - was too thin - especially his arse.
Raphael was still a cycling obsessive in his 90's and often complained at how predictable modern racing is.
Gem was no doubt heavily involved in doping and saw little wrong with it and said as much.
In 1955 Raphael was one of the first riders to finished to finish all three grand tours - 3rd in Vuelta, 4th in Giro and 6th in the Tour.
Geminiani's team mate / rival Bobet died in 1983 and Anquetil in 1987. Late Irish cyclist Raphael Kimmage was named after Gem.
Raphaël Géminiani
Raphaël Géminiani (born 1925-06-12 in Clermont-Ferrand, passed away 2024-07-05) was a former professional road racing cyclist from France, active between 1943 and 1960. His best results are 7 stage wins in Tour de France and 2 wins in KOM Giro d'Italia.
www.procyclingstats.com
The Tour de France mourns Raphaël Géminiani
Legendary French rider and directeur sportif dies at 99
www.cyclingnews.com
Cormcolash
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Don't really like Cavendish (particularly when he was younger and far more of a prick) but at least he's a Manx and not a full on Brit bastard
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Andre Drege (1999 - 6 July 2024)
Norwegian rider died after a crash in Tour of Austria. He was having a fine year winning a string of smaller races.
www.eurosport.com
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Norwegian rider died after a crash in Tour of Austria. He was having a fine year winning a string of smaller races.
Andre Drege dies at the age of 24 after crash at Tour of Austria - Eurosport
Norwegian cyclist Andre Drege died at the age of 25 after falling on a descent of the Grossglockner at the Tour of Austria.
www.eurosport.com
André Drege
André Drege (born 1999-05-04 in Ålesund, passed away 2024-07-06) was a professional road racing cyclist from Norway, currently riding for Team Coop - Repsol. His best results are winning GC International Tour of Rhodes and winning GC South Aegean Tour.
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Happier news - Didn't see this but... Biniam Girmay won again and is in a very strong position for Green.
Post race Interview:
Post race Interview:
Cav was an awful dangerous so and so in early years that he won a lot of stages. The worst crash Cav caused in a 2010 Tour de Suisse sprint finish led to a rider protest the next day and Cavendish took no responsibility for it. In last 12 years or so Cav has been no more dangerous than many others. Cav is quick to blame others for dangerous riding.
Backlash against Cavendish after Swiss crash | Cyclingnews.com
Peloton protest against HTC-Columbia sprinter's aggression
www.cyclingnews.com
From 5:23 on here is stage 5 finish overhead shot. This is as good as sprinting gets in fairness.
Cav will won't go quietly - he will probably keep racing until he can't get a contract. He will have huge problems adapting to life outside pro cycling.
Totally one dimensional addicted to cycling - probably why he is so immature.
Andre Drege: Tour of Austria final stage cancelled after death
The final stage of the Tour of Austria is replaced with a memorial ride following the death of Norwegian Andre Drege.
www.bbc.com
A fortnight ago Wiggo said he had some media planned for the Tour but didn't want to say what it was yet...
www.stickybottle.com
Brad must have extreme PTSD (teeing someone up for a one liner here)
Bradley Wiggins joins Lance Armstrong podcast for Tour de France
Bradley Wiggins has joined forces with Lance Armstrong on his Tour de France podcast in the United States
Stage 3 of women's Giro is later today...
I mentioned the 1984 Tour de France previously...
The stand out stage of the first 10 was stage 5. Finish at 5:40
Three riders came in 17:41 ahead of the peloton this put Fignon's Renault team mate Vincent Barteau (3rd on stage) into yellow which he held for 12 stages. Kimmage memorably mentions his RMO teammate Barteau in A Rough Ride - somehow Barteau finished the 1986 Tour prologue OTL(!!). Barteau won a stage of the 1989 Tour and later worked for French Eurosport.
Paulo Ferreira (Sporting-Raposeira) won the stage his Portuguese team had somehow got a wildcard. It was the only race he ever won outside Portugal. 22 year old Ferriera didn't get to Paris and never rode a GT again.
www.procyclingstats.com
www.procyclingstats.com
The other early stand out stage was the first TT. Hinault had edged out Fignon in the prologue but Fignon began to take over on stage 7 taking 0:16 out of Kelly, w/ Hinault @ 0:49 and Roche 4th @ 1:07.
www.procyclingstats.com
I mentioned the 1984 Tour de France previously...
The stand out stage of the first 10 was stage 5. Finish at 5:40
Three riders came in 17:41 ahead of the peloton this put Fignon's Renault team mate Vincent Barteau (3rd on stage) into yellow which he held for 12 stages. Kimmage memorably mentions his RMO teammate Barteau in A Rough Ride - somehow Barteau finished the 1986 Tour prologue OTL(!!). Barteau won a stage of the 1989 Tour and later worked for French Eurosport.
Paulo Ferreira (Sporting-Raposeira) won the stage his Portuguese team had somehow got a wildcard. It was the only race he ever won outside Portugal. 22 year old Ferriera didn't get to Paris and never rode a GT again.
Tour de France 1984 Stage 5 results
Paulo José dos Santos Ferreira is the winner of Tour de France 1984 Stage 5, before Vincent Barteau and Maurice Le Guilloux. Vincent Barteau was leader in GC.
www.procyclingstats.com
Paulo José dos Santos Ferreira
Paulo José dos Santos Ferreira (born 1962-05-11 in Vialonga) is a former professional road racing cyclist from Portugal, active between 1982 and 1988. His best results are winning a stage in Tour de France and winning GC Grande Prémio Jornal de Notícias.
www.procyclingstats.com
The other early stand out stage was the first TT. Hinault had edged out Fignon in the prologue but Fignon began to take over on stage 7 taking 0:16 out of Kelly, w/ Hinault @ 0:49 and Roche 4th @ 1:07.
Tour de France 1984 Stage 7 (ITT) results
Laurent Fignon is the winner of Tour de France 1984 Stage 7 (ITT), before Sean Kelly and Bernard Hinault. Vincent Barteau was leader in GC.
www.procyclingstats.com
40 years ago today -
1984 Tour de France first day in high mountains.
stage 11 Pau to Guzet-Neige 226 km.
Only footage I can find. It cuts out before Senor Herrera (2nd) finishes.
Winning attack @ 5:48.
Nico Roche gets mentioned @ 5:22.
www.procyclingstats.com
1984 Tour de France first day in high mountains.
stage 11 Pau to Guzet-Neige 226 km.
Only footage I can find. It cuts out before Senor Herrera (2nd) finishes.
Winning attack @ 5:48.
Nico Roche gets mentioned @ 5:22.
Tour de France 1984 Stage 11 results
Robert Millar is the winner of Tour de France 1984 Stage 11, before Luis Alberto Herrera and Pedro Delgado. Vincent Barteau was leader in GC.
www.procyclingstats.com
Stage 9 of 1984 Tour was from Nantes to Bordeaux. Sounds a long way, right?
338 km!!! Jan Raas won after 9 hours 40 minutes! FFS.
www.procyclingstats.com
No commentary just Kraftwerk -
Also stage 21 of the 1984 Tour was 320 km and took the winner Frank Hoste 9 hrs 28 mins.
338 km!!! Jan Raas won after 9 hours 40 minutes! FFS.
Tour de France 1984 Stage 9 results
Jan Raas is the winner of Tour de France 1984 Stage 9, before Bruno Leali and Marc Madiot. Vincent Barteau was leader in GC.
www.procyclingstats.com
Also stage 21 of the 1984 Tour was 320 km and took the winner Frank Hoste 9 hrs 28 mins.
Stage 9 of 1984 Tour was from Nantes to Bordeaux. Sounds a long way, right?
338 km!!! Jan Raas won after 9 hours 40 minutes! FFS.
No commentary just Kraftwerk -Tour de France 1984 Stage 9 results
Jan Raas is the winner of Tour de France 1984 Stage 9, before Bruno Leali and Marc Madiot. Vincent Barteau was leader in GC.
Also stage 21 of the 1984 Tour was 320 km and took the winner Frank Hoste 9 hrs 28 mins.
and they want us to believe that Lemond was clean?
another training spin today. Looks like they're gonna soft-pedal all the way until they wind until the sprinter teams want to start controlling it.
I didn't even see anyone trying to get into a break. There should be some penalty for this shite.
I didn't even see anyone trying to get into a break. There should be some penalty for this shite.
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