Catholic Church and Child abuse scandal (1 Viewer)

[Moods For Mallards]

My concern with the "everyone has a lot to answer for" line, as understandable as it is, is that the Church will get away scot free again because they're just one part of "the whole country", and how do you punish "the whole country"?

 

[Reets]

My concern with the "everyone has a lot to answer for" line, as understandable as it is, is that the Church will get away scot free again because they're just one part of "the whole country", and how do you punish "the whole country"?

We all stand in a bold corner for 3 minutes?

 

[shitepipe]

this is pretty wtf too
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/may/20/catholic-abuse-ireland

so, she's a journalist who writes almost exclusively about religion, faith and God, yet in this case refuses to comment on the issue because she has never 'seen' it.

hmmm, there's a contradiction in there somewhere...

 

[egg_]

there is more to this than just the church.

Way more.

We had about a zillion institutions in which un-vetted, unaccountable individuals were put in the sole care of big groups of vulnerable people, including children. Of course these jobs attracted paedophiles and bullies. Everyone knew that these places were unpleasant to be in, but The People of Ireland genuinely thought that the moral health of the nation was more important than the well-being of its citizens

 

[egg_]

My concern with the "everyone has a lot to answer for" line, as understandable as it is, is that the Church will get away scot free again because they're just one part of "the whole country", and how do you punish "the whole country"?

Lots of abusers have already been jailed. Coverer-uppers probably are looking at legal sanction too at some stage if things keep going the way they are. What else can be done?

 

[Moods For Mallards]

We all stand in a bold corner for 3 minutes?

It would have to be at least 5 or we're just codding ourselves.

 

[Moods For Mallards]

Lots of abusers have already been jailed. Coverer-uppers probably are looking at legal sanction too at some stage if things keep going the way they are. What else can be done?

Well, I don't mean jailing abusers.
I mean long-term steps to remove religious orders from official life, like implementing a proper state education system, etc.

 

[Unicron]

Well, I don't mean jailing abusers.
I mean long-term steps to remove religious orders from official life, like implementing a proper state education system, etc.

Even with the anger most of the nation seems to be feeling right now I'm not sure that a referendum on getting the "special relationship" with the Catholic Church removed from the constitution would pass.

 

[Moods For Mallards]

Even with the anger most of the nation seems to be feeling right now I'm not sure that a referendum on getting the "special relationship" with the Catholic Church removed from the constitution would pass.

I think it might pass (after a horrible campaign), but I don't think this or any potential government would hold such a referendum.

 

[maims bond]

Even with the anger most of the nation seems to be feeling right now I'm not sure that a referendum on getting the "special relationship" with the Catholic Church removed from the constitution would pass.

Dude, that's been gone since 1973.

 

[rettucs]

Do I have to fill in any forms?

If no, then yes I'll do the apostasy thingy

send an e-mail to the pope with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject header.

the catholic are real 21st century now. They have the internet and everything.

you can even do confession online. Its deadly.

 

[egg_]

Well, I don't mean jailing abusers.
I mean long-term steps to remove religious orders from official life, like implementing a proper state education system, etc.

I'd vote for you if you ran on this ticket.

The religious are almost gone from teaching one way or the other. There's 1 nun (the headnun) left in my mother's St. John of God primary school now and when she retires there's no one to replace her. No priests left anymore in my old secondary school AFAIK, and the seminary is closed

I wonder what's going to happen when the orders die out. I'm sure the last Irish Christian Brother, for instance, will die in our lifetimes - are they going to bequeath their property to the State, would you think?

 

[Pantone247]

I wonder what's going to happen when the orders die out. I'm sure the last Irish Christian Brother, for instance, will die in our lifetimes - are they going to bequeath their property to the State, would you think?

in skerries there were two schools, De La Salle brothers for boys and Holy Faith Sisters for girls, in the late 80's the joined up and built The Holy Faith/De La Salle school, mid 90's all the De La Salle bros were gone, early 00's the last nuns quit and the school was handed over as a community college, don't know if any money passed over, the word "transfer: was used a lot, and I believe is run by a trust or something... seems like that way forward

FYI a nun once put her hand down my trousers, under the guise of 'tucking my shirt in'

 

[Pantone247]

also seems to get away with acting like a complete fucking animal in this country is to be a priest or a bank manager. what is it that these people have over the state that allows them to act completely, unrentantly and repeatidly outside the law

I urge anyone taking the time to post here to write to TD's or the Dept of Justice or someone about this, if you can take 30 seconds t rant on a msg board you can take 3 mins to send an e-mail. It does make a difference

 

[maims bond]

also seems to get away with acting like a complete fucking animal in this country is to be a priest or a bank manager. what is it that these people have over the state that allows them to act completely, unrentantly and repeatidly outside the law

I urge anyone taking the time to post here to write to TD's or the Dept of Justice or someone about this, if you can take 30 seconds t rant on a msg board you can take 3 mins to send an e-mail. It does make a difference

You're right but they take more notice of letters to be honest, haven't fully entered the digital age.

 

[Pantone247]

true, write a letter, better again!

I just had a a great old time with the BCC and RTE and The Late Late Show... not only did I make a point, I got some comedy gold

will save that story for another thread..

 

[ann post]

I wonder what's going to happen when the orders die out. I'm sure the last Irish Christian Brother, for instance, will die in our lifetimes - are they going to bequeath their property to the State, would you think?

theres still a surprising amount of monks in this country.

 

[Moods For Mallards]

true, write a letter, better again!

I just had a a great old time with the BCC and RTE and The Late Late Show... not only did I make a point, I got some comedy gold

will save that story for another thread..

A thread you're going to start right now?

 

[Scientician 0.8]

I wonder what's going to happen when the orders die out. I'm sure the last Irish Christian Brother, for instance, will die in our lifetimes - are they going to bequeath their property to the State, would you think?

Join the CBs now, wait til the rest of 'em die then sell off their holdings.

 

[mr pharmacist!!!!1]

It makes my feel so sick, utterly sick i want to throw up. Every child abuser should be hung up in public, ball's the lot cut off, fingers and tounge cut off and eyes gouged out and left in a cell with no bed and just bread and a small bit of water sometimes. They also deserve a 17inch dildo shooved up there anal passage every single day to see ... Read morehow they like it. Mother Fuckers!!!! Its also excused as an illness. Illness my oxball, its total perversion to take away ones innocence for life and destroy a life.... Utter bastards. May they burn in the fires of hell................