Iraq (1 Viewer)

[Janer]

Not that we didn't know.....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7912656.stm

 

[nooleen]

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[therealjohnny]

5th April 2010 10:44 EST WikiLeaks has released a classified US military video depicting the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen people in the Iraqi suburb of New Baghdad -- including two Reuters news staff.

Reuters has been trying to obtain the video through the Freedom of Information Act, without success since the time of the attack. The video, shot from an Apache helicopter gun-site, clearly shows the unprovoked slaying of a wounded Reuters employee and his rescuers. Two young children involved in the rescue were also seriously wounded.

The military did not reveal how the Reuters staff were killed, and stated that they did not know how the children were injured.

After demands by Reuters, the incident was investigated and the U.S. military concluded that the actions of the soldiers were in accordance with the law of armed conflict and its own "Rules of Engagement".

Consequently, WikiLeaks has released the classified Rules of Engagement for 2006, 2007 and 2008, revealing these rules before, during, and after the killings.

WikiLeaks has released both the original 38 minutes video and a shorter version with an initial analysis. Subtitles have been added to both versions from the radio transmissions.

WikiLeaks obtained this video as well as supporting documents from a number of military whistleblowers. WikiLeaks goes to great lengths to verify the authenticity of the information it receives. We have analyzed the information about this incident from a variety of source material. We have spoken to witnesses and journalists directly involved in the incident.

WikiLeaks wants to ensure that all the leaked information it receives gets the attention it deserves. In this particular case, some of the people killed were journalists that were simply doing their jobs: putting their lives at risk in order to report on war. Iraq is a very dangerous place for journalists: from 2003- 2009, 139 journalists were killed while doing their work.

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http://www.collateralmurder.com/

 

[therealjohnny]

Not surprisingly this naive/ill-informed/deluded/triumphalist arsehole's comments has caused a little bit of anger

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not on Fox's forum though

http://www.thefoxnation.com/interna...ombat-troops-leave-iraq-civilian-force-double

 

[St. Fechin]

Owl-right! Wha-hoo! U-S-A!

 

[shower another shower]

thats the biggest fucking truck I've ever seen.

 

[therealjohnny]

That guy, off duty

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[pete]

A man whose lies helped to make the case for invading Iraq – starting a nine-year war costing more than 100,000 lives and hundreds of billions of pounds – will come clean in his first British television interview tomorrow.
"Curveball", the Iraqi defector who fabricated claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, smiles as he confirms how he made the whole thing up. It was a confidence trick that changed the course of history, with Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi's lies used to justify the Iraq war.
He tries to defend his actions: "My main purpose was to topple the tyrant in Iraq because the longer this dictator remains in power, the more the Iraqi people will suffer from this regime's oppression."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...d-to-100000-deaths-confesses-all-7606236.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/man-whose-wmd-lies-led-to-100000-deaths-confesses-all-7606236.html

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Bump.

Nice to see Boris Johnson slate Blairs attempt to distance himself from the shitstorm he helped create.

Now I'm hoping ISIS have overstretched themselves and get routed by the Kurds, Iranians and what remains of the Iraqi army with the Americans overhead to polish them off. The savages deserve nothing less.

 

[MilanPan!c]

Considering they're sitting on at least a billion USD cash money and now have a foothold in two countries...well... I think this may take more than them overstretching themselves...

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

All I want to know is if all the Archer jokes have already been made?

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Considering they're sitting on at least a billion USD cash money and now have a foothold in two countries...well... I think this may take more than them overstretching themselves...

They only have a limited amount of fighters though and the more advances they make the more stretched they become. Additionally, their fondness for full-frontal assaults gives those fighting them decent targets to attack unlike the days of the suicide bomber who is essentially unstoppable.
In their favour is that most of what they 'control' is desert so it doesn't actually require any pacification.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

All I want to know is if all the Archer jokes have already been made?

No, I'm all ears.

 

[MilanPan!c]

They only have a limited amount of fighters though and the more advances they make the more stretched they become. Additionally, their fondness for full-frontal assaults gives those fighting them decent targets to attack unlike the days of the suicide bomber who is essentially unstoppable.
In their favour is that most of what they 'control' is desert so it doesn't actually require any pacification.

Their major advantage re: fighters is that they're fighting people that don't want to fight. And they've been able to get very modern weaponry via cash/looting. And of course they have the backing of SA, and are led by people that have been fighting in Syria, not just kids, etc.

The Shia "call to arms" managed to get about 1000 people willing to go fight... with those sorts of numbers ISIS won't be out of fighters any time soon. Sadly.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

No, I'm all ears.

Oh, I was hoping to hear some.

Maybe there aren't any.

It definitely seems like Iraq is in the Danger Zone though.

 

[Unicron]

I thought Mallory was making them legit again.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

For now the Shi'ites may not be too big on fighting but if ISIS start making large gains in Shia areas I imagine they'll step up. The Iranians are apparently ready to send over 2 divisions should ISIS reach Baghdad and the Kurds in the north will not allow anyone take their territory without massive loss of life. Over in Syria Assad is slowly grinding out a victory and although Raqaa is still far from the front, the desert alluded to earlier means large advances can be made in short spaces of time. ISIS may get their caliphate but if they do it will consist mainly of uninhabitable desert, they'll be hemmed in on all sides and effectively unable to exert any real power beyond its borders.
It should of course be acknowledged that their beliefs mean they don't care whether they live or die which naturally makes them a lot scarier than a regular army.

 

[Denny Oubidoux]

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[Denny Oubidoux]

@pete your twitter thing is not working

 

[pete]

@pete your twitter thing is not working

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