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spuded said:I understand the reasoning people had dfor doing it back in 77, just to get a reaction like, chaos n' all.
I'm in work right now with a girl who is from the former east germany and she found it extremely distasteful. a swastika isn't a fuckin fashion statement its bollox
Bill Shatner said:Just wondering now, but does yr east german friend understand that it was done and why, back in 77?
I ain't condoning nuttin', mind...
and also mr 'italkshite' why didn't you approach eric at the gig and call him 'self-righteous', rather than being a wuss and sayin it online a couple of days later?
Phil said:I'm busy trying to figure out how to take away your ability to use any of the emoticon things. Jesus.
ronan yakuza said:Sorry but I just don’t understand you at all here, I seem to be getting a reaction right now, whether or not that was my intention. The only difference I can see is that you (possibly, I’m guessing) & I weren’t active in music in 77 and since we can only look back in hindsight, can only see it from one side. What happened when the first person wearing the symbol was seen in public in 77, did the public understand they were just trying to “cause chaos” then? Did this very argument happen then? Were the viewers of the Bill Grundy show made to understand beforehand that Siouxsie Sioux was not actually a nazi? If you’re gonna condemn me for doing this then condemn all for doing it, no double standards.
Ronan Yakuza said:I’ll just suggest that if the swastika is seen by non-nazis and doesn’t shock as much as it once did then it ceases to have the power it once had as a symbol to strike fear, it was after all just taken from history and given a new meaning, why can’t that meaning be taken away again.
jmlcomp said:well mainland europe are taking the opposite tack and banning the symbol outright because for the most part they WANT the symbol to retain it's connatations, they have no intention of letting it be watered down......
jmlcomp said:as for wearing it at halloween imagine imagine if you were out for a smoke and a black african couple came up walking past you....do you think they would get the joke????
Ronan Yakuza said:We didn’t know there was a jewish centre in the area and didn’t go wandering around outside as we knew only people coming inside the venue should (or shouldn’t it seems) expect to see anything like this.
jmlcomp said:as for wearing it at halloween imagine imagine if you were out for a smoke and a black african couple came up walking past you....do you think they would get the joke????
jmlcomp said:it serves as a totem for rememberance so that we are reminded of the horrors that man is capable of......
and in that respect i 100% agree....
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