Tim Burton (1 Viewer)

[Anthony]

damn right ino.

PEE WEE!

 

[nlgbbbblth]

you're joking?

nah, serious. Batman looked ahead of its time when I saw it in the cinema in 1989. Great Prince soundtrack too

 

[BC]

...beetlejuice. it makes me laugh, and it has winona ryder as a goth schoolgirl. mmm. i love the dancing at the end. my favorite bit is when the ghost father tries to speak as he decays and his jaw falls off, hehe.

i'm not at all keen on this idea of remaking "charlie and the chocolate factory". the original was pretty much perfect i though. ...had the pleasure of watching it again the other day and it still retains all its charm. and apparently deep has based his performance in it on marilyn manson, just as his performance in "pirates of the carrabian" was based on keith richards. hmm. doesnt sound like its gonna work for me.

 

[spiritualtramp]

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i'm not at all keen on this idea of remaking "charlie and the chocolate factory". the original was pretty much perfect i though. ...had the pleasure of watching it again the other day and it still retains all its charm.

I disagree. The original was bloody terrible. I never liked it. It was nothing like the book. I reckon Tim Burton is going to do a much better job.

And it isn't a "remake" of the film anyway, it is going to be a different film adaptation of the book.

 

[Goodbye]

Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory was a hollywood film loosely based on a Rohld Dahl book...

Burtons Charlie and The Chocolate Factory is a movie based on said book and NOT a remake of WWATCF

 

[Goodbye]

oops, should have read your post first spiritytramp...

 

[Maxx Stone]

I saw Tim Burton at Cream in the royal albert hall on friday.

I screamed TIM!!! and then took his photo.



nice guy.

 

[avernus]

I saw Tim Burton at Cream in the royal albert hall on friday.

I screamed TIM!!! and then took his photo.



nice guy.

what'd he do? did he run and hide under a table? I hear he does that.

 

[Maxx Stone]

He seemed genuinely shocke that he got noticed and even more when i took his picture and even more when my cousin took a pic on his phone and even more when we scampered off, giggling like schoolgirls.. But hey, Royal Albert Hall? 10,000 people or something? There bound to be a beetlejuice fan in there tim, why so surprised?

 

[SadieOutlaw]

where's pee wee herman's big adventure?
it's my personal favourite, although beetlejuice and ed wood are close behind.

 

[therealjohnny]

Tim Burton's The Melancholy Death of Oyster Boy

 

[THRILLHO]

An open letter to Tim Burton

A goth got refused entry to a preview of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, whinges on the internet.

 

[Latex lizzie]

text please...firewall wont you be nice.

 

[Deleted member 3435]

did anyone see nightmare before christmas in the cinema?

there was a short burton film beforehand called vincent.

it was really good as i recall.

 

[THRILLHO]

Here you go...

Dear Tim,

Hello, my name is Dave Canfield, a contributor to www.twitchfilm.net. As a long time fan of your films I’m writing to express concern and sadness about the way your new film, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, is being marketed.

As you know two special screenings were just held in Chicago, Illinois at the AMC River East 21 Theater. A friend who was able to attend even heard you were there. Wish I could have said the same.

A few days ago, at a promotional screening of Unleashed, a friend of mine (Scott Shaw, pictured here) and I were approached by a representative of the marketing firm in charge of promoting the Charlie screening: Nielsen NRG - A VNU Company. He offered both of us a letter but Scott and I, realizing each was good for four tickets, only took one which was all we needed to attend with our wives.

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Scott Shaw | Rachel Shaw


As you can see from the picture of Scott he is obviously a Goth. He was dressed as such when approached.

We immediately called in our reservation. To say we were grateful is an understatement.

We went home and told our wives the exciting news and on Saturday left for the theater.

My wife and I don’t get out much. Our five year old is emotionally troubled and it can be difficult to find - much less pay for - sitters. We certainly can’t afford to treat friends to a night out very often.

Here are pictures of how we were dressed.

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Dave and Harmony Canfield | Scott and Rachel Shaw


We waited in line approximately an hour and a half during which two separate representatives of Nielsen NRG approached us and spoke to us directly. The first representative asked us (and everyone else in line, one at a time) if we had camera phones. The second rep came by about half an hour later, smiled, handed us four tickets and said, “Enjoy the show.”

This is where it gets interesting.

This is where it gets disturbing.

When they started letting people in a man, who later identified himself as Peter Larkin, an employee of Nielsen NRG, took my ticket. But as I made my way to the escalator I noticed my wife Harmony and two friends, Scott and Rachel Shaw, were standing off to the side. Motioning them to hurry up they shook their heads and pointed at Peter.

I asked him what was up. “This is not a costumed event.” he replied.

“A costumed event?” I said, “These people are Goths, they dress this way every day.”

“Well,” says Pete, “This is my event, a private party and they aren’t getting in.”

“Are you telling me,” I said, “that you are not allowing them to attend this event because they look different? That’s blatant discrimination.”

“Look I’ll get you tickets to anything else you want,” says Pete.

“This is a Tim Burton movie, for crying out loud! What is the problem?” says I.

Pete scurried off to find passes for whatever else we wanted while everyone else in line filed by, clearly amused at our plight. By the time he got back we were in no mood to be placated. Needless to say we declined his offer feeling that it was pretty clear he just wanted to cover up his public humiliation of us - intended or not. We tore up the tickets and left as he called for security. I think I said something to the crowd behind us like, “Don’t expect to see a Tim Burton movie if you’re a Goth. So much for the land of the free and the brave.”

I apologize for that. I just wanted to see Peter Larkin squirm a little. Maybe he was just doing his job but in my opinion he did it badly.

I should probably mention at this point that my wife, who as you can see in the picture is clearly not a Goth, had been pulled out of the crowd when it became clear she’d come with Scott and Rachel and told she wouldn’t be allowed to attend either. Guess it doesn’t pay to have the wrong sort of friends.

Scott and Rachel Shaw are two of the quietest, nicest, most respectful people I know. Unlike many Goths that take it out on the world for getting picked on or laughed at they take it in stride. To know them is to love them - even if you think they’re a little weird.

Tim, look at the picture of Scott and Rachel. My friends didn’t have any axe to grind. They don’t even look that odd. Scott wasn’t wearing anything all that distracting. Mr. Larkin could simply have asked him to remove his cloak and he would have blended in fine with the rest of the audience. It was cold outside so he wore his cloak. I know Scott and he doesn’t own a ‘regular’ coat - just the cloak.

But Scott wasn’t given the opportunity to take off his cloak - he was treated like an embarrassment in spite of the fact that Nielsen NRG approached HIM about attending this event.

It isn’t so much that we didn’t get to attend the film that night (although we were invited, waited an hour and a half and given tickets) as it was having two of my friends - big Tim Burton fans - publicly humiliated simply because they - like the protagonists in so many of your films - are different. They didn’t fit in to the white bread, bland, vanilla culture Peter Larkin was clearly interested in tapping into.

I don’t mean that as a dig at the other folks in line. But wasn’t Marilyn Manson supposed to star in this thing? Be that true or not didn’t Depp model his performance around Manson? Isn’t this a darker take on the story?

Polite, respectful, INVITED Goths not allowed into a Tim Burton Film - is there anything else to say?

I would guess you are under a lot of pressure right now what with a new film coming out. I’m certainly not implying that Peter Larkin spoke for you - in fact I believe the opposite is true. It’s my job to forgive but it’s Nielsen NRG’s job to represent you.

I’m publishing this, Tim, mainly because I would really like to see something happen as a result. And I wanted to make sure you saw it.

Doing My Part To Keep America’s Film Culture From Devolving Into What America’s Music Culture Already Has

Dave Canfield

 

[THRILLHO]

did anyone see nightmare before christmas in the cinema?

there was a short burton film beforehand called vincent.

it was really good as i recall.

It's on the special edition DVD, along with "Frankenweenie".
They're both deadly.

 

[avernus]

did anyone see nightmare before christmas in the cinema?

there was a short burton film beforehand called vincent.

it was really good as i recall.

yeah I did, although I don't remember seeing the short.

 

[spiritualtramp]

"My wife and I don’t get out much. Our five year old is emotionally troubled and it can be difficult to find - much less pay for - sitters. We certainly can’t afford to treat friends to a night out very often."

How is that relevant to anything that happened in the theatre? Bloody goths.

 

[spiritualtramp]

did anyone see nightmare before christmas in the cinema?

there was a short burton film beforehand called vincent.

it was really good as i recall.

Does it have anything to do with Vincent Price?

I :heart: Vincent Price.

 

[THRILLHO]

Yeah, it's about a kid who dreams of being Vincent Price.
And it's narrated by Vincent Price.