Sea Shepherd! (2 Viewers)

[ann post]

i thought the whole thing just sounded like good cop/bad cop, where there's certain stuff greenpeace cant do, equally there is certain stuff cybill sheperd cant do, if it had remained as one organisation it wouldnt be as potent. people are saps enough to buy that stuff about them being sworn enemies, they are all people who've worked side by side for years.

 

[Lili Marlene]

No, what I am saying that only one person killed does not make a whole huge organisation violent.

Shit, someone should have told Greece that

i thought the whole thing just sounded like good cop/bad cop, where there's certain stuff greenpeace cant do, equally there is certain stuff cybill sheperd cant do, if it had remained as one organisation it wouldnt be as potent. people are saps enough to buy that stuff about them being sworn enemies, they are all people who've worked side by side for years.

it's a conspiracy!






i'm way in over my head here

 

[magicbastarder]

No, what I am saying that only one person killed does not make a whole huge organisation violent.

have sea shepherd significantly changed their methods?

 

[subbuteo !]

"In February, a member of Japan's whaling fleet was killed in a ship fire following a series of confrontations with vessels from Sea Shepherd. Both Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd say that they are prepared to "chase, block, and harass" any attempts by the whaling fleet to harpoon humpbacks."

thats a bit of a different story to some lad been melted with acid in some sort of attack.
anyone anymore facts about what actually happened?? before the witch trails begin.

also greenpeace do their own thing,maybe not as hardcore as seashepard but have the people on here slagging them off been out there on boats doing shit themselves???

 

[Space]

Indeed, Greenpeace has done a hell of a lot of good for a lot of causes, as valiant as the Sea Shepard crew are they pretty much stick with one cause. Oh and it's best not to base your understanding of any organisation on an docu-entertainment show on tv.

 

[Lili Marlene]

Indeed, Greenpeace has done a hell of a lot of good for a lot of causes, as valiant as the Sea Shepard crew are they pretty much stick with one cause. Oh and it's best not to base your understanding of any organisation on an docu-entertainment show on tv.

I based mine on this thread alone

 

[AnarchoBob]

have sea shepherd significantly changed their methods?

No, but I don't see anything inherently violent in their methods. To me sabotage of ships and damage to property is not violence.

 

[magicbastarder]

a mate of mine works for greenpeace and has done anti-whaling the southern seas in the esperanza.

i must show him this thread.

 

[broken arm]

i don't have much time for either org but suggesting that sea shepard (a one cause org) have done more for the environment/society than greenpeace is, well, wrong.





i mean, save the wales and all but there are bigger issue to tackle. !ninjaaaa

 

[Lili Marlene]

tell it to Nik!

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[ann post]

its pretty cool that being a pirate is still a viable option. trying a similar project on land would probably lead to much criticism.

 

[AnarchoBob]

i don't have much time for either org but suggesting that sea shepard (a one cause org) have done more for the environment/society than greenpeace is, well, wrong.

But it's silly to compare the whole of Greenpeace with Sea Shepherd that, as you say, has a specific focus. You can't really say that Greenpeace is better because it does more for the society and enviroment on issues that Sea Shepherd is not concerned due to its nature.

You would have to compare and focus on the issue of marine conservation and protection of endangered marine species. On that basis it is not wrong to state that Sea Shepherd contretely does way more than Greenpeace.

its pretty cool that being a pirate is still a viable option. trying a similar project on land would probably lead to much criticism.

It would be pretty cool indeed. But with something like Sea Shepherd on-land would be much more open to accusation of eco-terrorism.

 

[ann post]

It would be pretty cool indeed. But with something like Sea Shepherd on-land would be much more open to accusation of eco-terrorism.

yes, what i said.

 

[AnarchoBob]

Ahahah right enough. Silly me.

 

[righteous harmony]

YES invented not killing whales...

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[broken arm]

You would have to compare and focus on the issue of marine conservation and protection of endangered marine species. On that basis it is not wrong to state that Sea Shepherd contretely does way more than Greenpeace.

I'm not sure what you mean - i was probably wrong in trying to compare them.

I went looking for evidence of success. It's hard to compare because all I can see from the sea shepard site is a list of actions whereas greenpeace list outcomes of actions.

 

[NecroSteve]

Joe from Dromod - he takes loads of photos at gigs all over the mid- and north-west - is the man to talk to on this matter!!

 

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[subbuteo !]

You would have to compare and focus on the issue of marine conservation and protection of endangered marine species. On that basis it is not wrong to state that greenpeace contretely does way more than AnarchoBob.

fixed that for ya!

 

[Shorty]

Indeed, Greenpeace has done a hell of a lot of good for a lot of causes, as valiant as the Sea Shepard crew are they pretty much stick with one cause. Oh and it's best not to base your understanding of any organisation on an docu-entertainment show on tv.

I heard you were going to become an ice trucking crab fisherman.