Sargent on Shannon, Rossport, Oil & Fianna Fail (1 Viewer)

[W.]

Interview conducted with Trevor Sargent on Saturday asking about the u-turn the greens took on so many issues.

http://attack.ie/?p=47

 

[Space]

Is that gonna get transcribed?

 

[W.]

you offering?

 

[Space]

you offering?

Don't think I'd be able for it, seeing as I'm almost too lazy to listen to all 39 minutes of the interview and all.

 

[pete]

summary?

 

[Space]

summary?

He's got job to concentrate on now so can't be criticising others. First few minutes anyway. I'll be back with the rest.

 

[magicbastarder]

the audio quality is not very good, which makes it harder to keep an ear on if you stick it on in the background.

 

[Space]

the audio quality is not very good, which makes it harder to keep an ear on if you stick it on in the background.

Dictaphones aren't known for their high audio quality.

More summary:

plants have rights too

we need to move away from oil before it runs out, ala Sweden who are gonna stop using oil by 2020

more local produce, "lower carbon footprint so to speak"

 

[pete]

sargent's the lad who went on record to say he would not lead his party into government with fianna fail right before he led his party into government with fianna fail, yeah?

just checking.

 

[Space]

Question why the shell to sea has disappeared from his website:

He's now in government so must stick with due process and can't be seen to be influencing the planning application. But his views haven't changed.

Btw I'm paraphrasing all over the place.

 

[broken arm]

more local produce, "lower carbon footprint so to speak"

not always the case.

 

[Space]

not always the case.

his words not mine

 

[broken arm]

his words not mine

i'm just trying to start a tangent whilst showing you can't trust anyone about anything

 

[magicbastarder]

not always the case.

because of spoilage? or are you thinking of specific reasons?

 

[Space]

i'm just trying to start a tangent whilst showing you can't trust anyone about anything

I thought was a given with politicians. Worst of all I can't remember how the carbon footprint on local produce can be greater. Think it's something to do with green houses? Do tell.

 

[broken arm]

because of spoilage? or are you thinking of specific reasons?

biggest environmental impact of food is usually from processing not food-miles.

i'm basing most of my nonsense on papers like this http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a777578646~db=all~order=page

 

[hugh]

biggest environmental impact of food is usually from processing not food-miles.

Really? But presumably less food miles is still better than more food miles, so in the absence of info about processing it's still better to buy local, right?

 

[Space]

Really? But presumably less food miles is still better than more food miles, so in the absence of info about processing it's still better to buy local, right?

Or non processed locally grown food ideally. In that interview Sargent was talking about farmers markets, which would have have a lot of unprocessed food I'd imagine.

 

[broken arm]

Really? But presumably less food miles is still better than more food miles, so in the absence of info about processing it's still better to buy local, right?

the issue is actually fairly complicated. It isn't an either/or.

The classic examples that come up are things like a tomato grown in a heated greenhouse in the UK has required more energy to produce that a tomato grown in spain and delivered by boat.

all these issue are open to debate and the issue really come down to what and how we consume food.

as I said some of the research done here in Cardiff has suggested that for some foods "food miles" only account for 2% of the environmental impact (when you look at production, processsing, cold storage and waste etc)

http://environment.guardian.co.uk/food/story/0,,2094795,00.html


i'd say go with whatever you feel is best and don't listen to me,

 

[broken arm]

Or non processed locally grown food ideally. In that interview Sargent was talking about farmers markets, which would have have a lot of unprocessed food I'd imagine.

true. and people who shop in farmers markets often consume particular types of food and lead particular lifestyles.

but are farmers markets equitable?