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I very much doubt you'll find anyone who disagrees with this, or anyone who doesn't want this to, both be possible, and to happen.Simple fact is, you want people to get vaccines, you remove IP protections.
Here’s the latest figures:I very much doubt you'll find anyone who disagrees with this, or anyone who doesn't want this to, both be possible, and to happen.
I got a bit lost a while ago. Initially we're were considering the suggestion that producing generic versions of the covid vaccines is not that straightforward. I don't think anyone here is qualified to fully rebuke that suggestion. So, we've veered into discussing whether or not generic vaccines won't happen because drugs companies and governments have too much of a vested financial interest to ever let that happen.
Thats kind of a separate argument and I'm fucked if I know enough to get involved in that one.
Btw did Astrazeneca not say at one point they would provide vaccines to the 'developing' world on a 'not-for-profit' basis?
I have a feeling when pfizer flood the world with their vaccines, Astrazeneca will start to disappear from view. Whether they actually did burn bridges with the EU, or whether it was all an orchestrated demolition job by pfizer, I doubt we'll ever know.
From the figures I've seen about vaccinations here, of the 1.5 shots that have been administered, 1.2 million are pfizer. I'd like to see a similar breakdown in the UK. I heard a guy say on the BBC over the weekend that their vaccination centers only have Astrazeneca.
thanksHere’s the latest figures:
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I think you will find many people who will say "in an ideal world" they'd like this, and handwring about how it can't happen, and finally find one of the arguments from the big pharmaceutical companies to justify this. Its the classic centrist dad position i guess. The actual reality is these things are possible, have been proven possible (e.g. With aids/hiv drugs) but its hard to do and comes at a political price. Capital strike is real!I very much doubt you'll find anyone who disagrees with this, or anyone who doesn't want this to, both be possible, and to happen.
I got a bit lost a while ago. Initially we're were considering the suggestion that producing generic versions of the covid vaccines is not that straightforward. I don't think anyone here is qualified to fully rebuke that suggestion. So, we've veered into discussing whether or not generic vaccines won't happen because drugs companies and governments have too much of a vested financial interest to ever let that happen.
Thats kind of a separate argument and I'm fucked if I know enough to get involved in that one.
Btw did Astrazeneca not say at one point they would provide vaccines to the 'developing' world on a 'not-for-profit' basis?
No idea myself. I'd be surprised if its anything that exciting.I have a feeling when pfizer flood the world with their vaccines, Astrazeneca will start to disappear from view. Whether they actually did burn bridges with the EU, or whether it was all an orchestrated demolition job by pfizer, I doubt we'll ever know.
At last, the truth is out!!
IT'LL NEVER WORK, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE!! IT'S COMMUNISM!!I think you will find many people who will say "in an ideal world" they'd like this, and handwring about how it can't happen, and finally find one of the arguments from the big pharmaceutical companies to justify this. Its the classic centrist dad position i guess. The actual reality is these things are possible, have been proven possible (e.g. With aids/hiv drugs) but its hard to do and comes at a political price. Capital strike is real!
Every communist country you can name has failed, my boss builds hospitals.IT'LL NEVER WORK, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE!! IT'S COMMUNISM!!
The boss who put everyone on 70K
A tech boss introduced a $70,000 minimum salary for all his staff - by cutting his own wages. Five years, on he has no regrets.www.bbc.com
My real takeaway from that article isReaching ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Unlikely in the U.S., Experts Now Believe (Published 2021)
Widely circulating coronavirus variants and persistent hesitancy about vaccines will keep the goal out of reach. The virus is here to stay, but vaccinating the most vulnerable may be enough to restore normalcy.www.nytimes.com
would love to see the venn diagram of those who are reluctant, with pro-trump, god-fearing, gun-toting, anglo-saxon protestant white ass americans.My real takeaway from that article is
Polls show that about 30 percent of the U.S. population is still reluctant to be vaccinated.
Fairly sure Ireland isn't that bad, God I hope not.
Every communist country you can name has failed, my boss builds hospitals.
My real takeaway from that article is
Polls show that about 30 percent of the U.S. population is still reluctant to be vaccinated.
Fairly sure Ireland isn't that bad, God I hope not.
I would say less than the media would have us think, like African Americans have every reason to distrust the US state, you know? I have no idea though.would love to see the venn diagram of those who are reluctant, with pro-trump, god-fearing, gun-toting, anglo-saxon protestant white ass americans.
mmm, in a similar way to above, young women have seen nothing but scandals in regards how their health is treated in recent years. It's up to the government (and the rest of us) to convince these people, even if it involves paying influencers...The research revealed 75% of participants intend to get a Covid-19 vaccine, 11% said they would not and 14% said they were unsure.
Vaccine hesitancy among young women 'swayed by influencers'
News from the Irish Examiner's team of reporterswww.irishexaminer.com
I would say less than the media would have us think, like African Americans have every reason to distrust the US state, you know? I have no idea though.
mmm, in a similar way to above, young women have seen nothing but scandals in regards how their health is treated in recent years. It's up to the government (and the rest of us) to convince these people, even if it involves paying influencers...
I saw a homeless guy on the phone the other day arguing with what I presume was some form of caseworker, "Sure you're a young lad yourself, why would you be getting it?"
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