bohs punks
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Had a long chat with the bar manager in bohs at the weekend about the gigs etc and the pa thing we discussed previously and where the 150 up front for the grassroots thing came from.
so this is what came out of conversation........
firstly they are happy with the gigs being there and the staff like working at them, some gigs have been better than others and gigs seem to get more peoeple than the discos but overall he was happy. they can get events that pull crowds on saturdays no bother themselves so if people aren't sure about crowds maybe look for a thursday or sunday afternoon or evening etc.
there should / would be no bother in us having a pa there, speakers could be mounted and desk etc securely stored. tommy trousers has offered to keep the microphones locally either if people thought that would be safer for them but in principle there would be no bother, he didnt see why we couldnt be having gigs there for the forseeable. this would however limit the pa to being used there rather than used outside but this probably makes it all easier to manage.
obviously the next issue is cost.
there is a standard charge that the office quotes for random 21sts, functions etc, this is where the 150 euro thing came from he thinks as rather than contact him they must have got the office.
this 150 euro charge doesnt apply to us - because of the connections with the club through the regular footie heads and the fact that the gigs are regular etc. regular events = regular income etc. also the gigs are defo encouraging people to come to games etc as there was a large turn out of us lot at fridays match.
however the club is mad in debt and he needs to be seen to be running the place proper etc.
so he was saying to me what he had said to byrnos, that if an event was free and pulled people then the venue would be free, if no one bought drink then they would appreaciate soemthing towards staff as they cant afford to lose money to entertain us. most nights i imagine drink is bought.
if the event was pay in at the door then they would appreciate some money towards electricity / breakages etc if the bar went ok or some money to cover bar staff if bar didnt go well ( ie nights when everyone goes to gig but does drinking beforehand or not many drinkers there or whatever).
he is offering to formalise this so as people know what the story is fully and to get rid fo the "i heard it was..." but it would be something along the lines of
if bar takes more than xxx euro then its 50 euro for elec, breakages etc
if bar takes less than xxx euro its 100 euro to cover their end, staff etc.
they arent trying to make a load of dosh off the gigs, just to cover their own end.
he has to think about this and will get back to me etc but xxx could be around 500 euro in takings - not profit, takings = 2/3 pints each by 60 people, they have to pay vat out of that etc.
no one is goign to get heir legs broken if they havent the exact amount either, its just so as to formalise things in some way so as there would be long term sustainability in us having a pa there.
so cost of venue inc pa would be 50 or 100 etc. the pa would be our property to be removed by us if we so wished.
i think this is fair
anyway i said id find out so what do ye think, still a good idea or ???????
original pa thread here, might be worth looking at again.
http://www.thumped.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=19686
so this is what came out of conversation........
firstly they are happy with the gigs being there and the staff like working at them, some gigs have been better than others and gigs seem to get more peoeple than the discos but overall he was happy. they can get events that pull crowds on saturdays no bother themselves so if people aren't sure about crowds maybe look for a thursday or sunday afternoon or evening etc.
there should / would be no bother in us having a pa there, speakers could be mounted and desk etc securely stored. tommy trousers has offered to keep the microphones locally either if people thought that would be safer for them but in principle there would be no bother, he didnt see why we couldnt be having gigs there for the forseeable. this would however limit the pa to being used there rather than used outside but this probably makes it all easier to manage.
obviously the next issue is cost.
there is a standard charge that the office quotes for random 21sts, functions etc, this is where the 150 euro thing came from he thinks as rather than contact him they must have got the office.
this 150 euro charge doesnt apply to us - because of the connections with the club through the regular footie heads and the fact that the gigs are regular etc. regular events = regular income etc. also the gigs are defo encouraging people to come to games etc as there was a large turn out of us lot at fridays match.
however the club is mad in debt and he needs to be seen to be running the place proper etc.
so he was saying to me what he had said to byrnos, that if an event was free and pulled people then the venue would be free, if no one bought drink then they would appreaciate soemthing towards staff as they cant afford to lose money to entertain us. most nights i imagine drink is bought.
if the event was pay in at the door then they would appreciate some money towards electricity / breakages etc if the bar went ok or some money to cover bar staff if bar didnt go well ( ie nights when everyone goes to gig but does drinking beforehand or not many drinkers there or whatever).
he is offering to formalise this so as people know what the story is fully and to get rid fo the "i heard it was..." but it would be something along the lines of
if bar takes more than xxx euro then its 50 euro for elec, breakages etc
if bar takes less than xxx euro its 100 euro to cover their end, staff etc.
they arent trying to make a load of dosh off the gigs, just to cover their own end.
he has to think about this and will get back to me etc but xxx could be around 500 euro in takings - not profit, takings = 2/3 pints each by 60 people, they have to pay vat out of that etc.
no one is goign to get heir legs broken if they havent the exact amount either, its just so as to formalise things in some way so as there would be long term sustainability in us having a pa there.
so cost of venue inc pa would be 50 or 100 etc. the pa would be our property to be removed by us if we so wished.
i think this is fair
anyway i said id find out so what do ye think, still a good idea or ???????
original pa thread here, might be worth looking at again.
http://www.thumped.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=19686
