Oasis Reunion (4 Viewers)

[chris d]

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Having a look at Oasis Mark II. This isn’t a bad one. Pretty good lyric for someone who’s not great at them. I’d say it’s good in the context that they were trying to come back from the Be Here Now disaster, but not 8 minutes good.

I don’t mind the Noel t-shirt vibe.

Don’t think I can listen to anything after this album. From memory all the singles from Heathen Chemistry on are depressing blocks of square shit.

 

[ernesto]

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Having a look at Oasis Mark II. This isn’t a bad one. Pretty good lyric for someone who’s not great at them. I’d say it’s good in the context that they were trying to come back from the Be Here Now disaster, but not 8 minutes good.

I don’t mind the Noel t-shirt vibe.

Don’t think I can listen to anything after this album. From memory all the singles from Heathen Chemistry on are depressing blocks of square shit.

i wouldn't be a big fan of that now.

Noel Gallagher seems to veer between that tempo and one slightly faster.

 

[chris d]

i wouldn't be a big fan of that now.

Noel Gallagher seems to veer between that tempo and one slightly faster.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying it’s great, just having a mooch about their later output and this one is generally considered good. My base line is that Oasis are not very good, so I’m giving them more slack than they deserve.

Cut out the solo and that gets rid of 90 seconds, shorten the outro and there is something a bit better. At the time I remember the talk of noel being into psychedelic stuff, so he’s trying that here but they just don’t have the chops for it.

This is the same year Kid A came out. Wilco had Yankee Hotel Foxtrot two years later. They are better musicians, were able create those kind of droney, sound layers. Oasis are working with what they have got here. Which isn’t much.

 

[seanc]

Funny that there's many of us who'll listen to twenty minutes of feedback but can't possibly make it through seven minute blocks of......that


Edit: seems like Chris d explained it there.

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

First dynamic pricing I experienced was Pearl Jam. I was 90% sure I wasn't going to bother getting a ticket anyway, but joined the queue to see what would happen. Was offered a ticket for €350 or something like that. Shithouses.

Remember when Pearl Jam took a stand against Ticketmaster?

 

[chris d]

Remember when Pearl Jam took a stand against Ticketmaster?

Almost like they are a bunch of total cunts now.

 

[sleepy]

First dynamic pricing I experienced was Pearl Jam. I was 90% sure I wasn't going to bother getting a ticket anyway, but joined the queue to see what would happen. Was offered a ticket for €350 or something like that. Shithouses.

Checking ticket prices for a few recent "big" artists

Manics/Suede - Trinity (2024) €59.90
The Smile - Point (2024) €61.85
Muse - Point (2023) €83.00
Pulp - St Annes (2023) €59.90
The Cure - Malahide (2019) €69.50

Muse would have had the biggest production costs out of that lot with their stage craft fuckaboutery. That price still cut deep, but I fancied seeing them once in my life.

Pearl Jam didn’t sell out and they were offering tickets for half price on the day of the gig. It didn’t really work out for them

 

[Anthony]

That's interesting, all the press was that it was sold out.

 

[ernesto]

That's interesting, all the press was that it was sold out.

Maybe they meant artistically?

 

[ann post]

Almost like they are a bunch of total cunts now.

Jesus what did they do in you ?

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

Almost like they are a bunch of total cunts now.

“Now”

 

[Frank Discussions]

Blur - awful people in that band.

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[ernesto]

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Think they apologised for that. I remember the drummer felt quite ashamed

 

[Frank Discussions]

Think they apologised for that. I remember the drummer felt quite ashamed

He did, but only when he was running for Labour years later and was called out.

 

[Scientician 0.8]

That's interesting, all the press was that it was sold out.

The fucked up aspect of these bigger shows is they don't actually sell out. There seems to always be extra capacity knocking about unless they're absolutely red hot like Oasis tickets were. Notwithstanding that Croke Park has an actual legal capacity, some of the outdoor venues seem to have a bit of leeway between sold out and being able to sell a few thousand more tickets.

I paid €130 each for two tickets to U2 in Croke Park in 2009 because my then girlfriend was a huge fan. The show wasn't terrible and the seats were good but it was bananas how little you really got for so much moolah. There must have been some Celtic Tiger vapour trail to it because she was horrified at how many people in these premium seats weren't arsed about the gig and just want more heinos or whatever.

 

[seanc]

There's sold out and there's sold out.

Some gigs will have a stage set up where certain seats are unusable (restricted view). But if there's enough demand they might decide to sell those seats anyway. Your seat is behind the hanging LED screens, but you're so close to the stage! As said, a lot of people don't care and just want to be there for whatever reason.

In soccerball they might cover a bunch of seats between the home and away fans to separate them. Officially for safety reasons, really, lack of sales. It's still a sold out game though, even with thousands of empty seats. At a gig, a big or small area between the pit and the rest? Whichever, it's still a sold out show either way.

Modern gig venues are quite transformable. And gig producers are quite adept at it. The London O2 can be sold out with 15000 punters or with 25000 punters. I'm sure Croke Park or the Aviva or wherever is no different. Sold out show, that's all that matters. "Releasing" more tickets later is really just a logistical exercise in moving barriers around and stuff.

 

[nuke terrorist]

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I posted Blur v Nardwaur on Thumped at least once before.
Miki Berenyi said in a BBC documentary about women rock musicians that Alex from Blur bit her on the arse on a night out as a joke.

There another Nardwaur video from 1991 where Thurston Moore and Lee Ranaldo manhandle Nardwaur and knock him over.

 

[Kermit McDermott]

Luckily no one here was famous as young man & may have acted like a prick on occasion..... or else we'd be cancellin' yo ass.

 

[chris d]

Can't watch that clip again, the cringe is overpowering. It genuinely must be awful having your worst moments filmed and out there for all to see. Having that weight pop into your memory every now and again. Carrying it around.

 

[dudley]

I posted Blur v Nardwaur on Thumped at least once before.
Miki Berenyi said in a BBC documentary about women rock musicians that Alex from Blur bit her on the arse on a night out as a joke.

There another Nardwaur video from 1991 where Thurston Moore and Lee Ranaldo manhandle Nardwaur and knock him over.

Only saw that Sonic Youth/Nardwaur interview for the first time this week, and they're such appalling assholes, especially Lee Ranaldo. Vindictive, cruel bullies. Haven't been able to listen to them since.