Sexism, god help us (3 Viewers)

[rettucs]

Man United's women's team doesn't exist anyway.

another example of blatant sexism!

 

[Lili Marlene]

another example of blatant sexism!

more of an unpronounced sexism tbh

 

[nooleen]

For what it's worth -- and I'm not sure if it has been said -- I'd say Egg and Egglady are doing far more for women's sports and women's stuff in general by raising two girls, encouraging them to do sports (possibly a wild assumption on my part), facilitating them with balanced political and social values (I can only assume, though possibly he's indoctrinating them with pinkoism, being the dogged lefty that he is), and providing them with a loving home and education, than any amount of shiteing on on the internet would do. Facebook activism really is the pits.

what? are you saying having female children does more to combat sexism than acknowledging or challenging it?

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Ah jaysis, can I not say anything without it being reduced to "Because X!"

So there are 2 kinds of society - one where ideas have currency and one where they don't. We live in the first kind, so clearly demonstrating that women are being treated unfairly is going to result in women being treated more fairly?

Simply. Yes.

 

[rettucs]

more of an unpronounced sexism tbh

Man United are one club that probably should have a ladies team. Their fans are so fanatical I'm sure a ladies team would be better supported than some 2nd or 3rd division teams.

 

[washingcattle]

what? are you saying having female children does more to combat sexism than acknowledging or challenging it?

That's definitely not what he said.

 

[rettucs]

Man United are one club that probably should have a ladies team. Their fans are so fanatical I'm sure a ladies team would be better supported than some 2nd or 3rd division mens teams.

 

[nooleen]

That's definitely not what he said.

given egg's complete lack of insight on gender issues i have no idea how
he could be facilitating them with balanced social values

 

[washingcattle]

Man United are one club that probably should have a ladies team. Their fans are so fanatical I'm sure a ladies team would be better supported than some 2nd or 3rd division teams.

Record crowd sees Britain's women footballers win - Telegraph

 

[washingcattle]

given egg's complete lack of insight on gender issues i have no idea how
he could be facilitating them with balanced social values

You don't need to know fuck all about "gender issues" to assure your children that they are as good as anyone else on earth no matter their gender, religion, race or anything else.

 

[Unicron]

So there are 2 kinds of society - one where ideas have currency and one where they don't. We live in the first kind, so clearly demonstrating that women are being treated unfairly is going to result in women being treated more fairly?

This isn't really an answer about civil rights, but more to do with power dynamics, but here we go ...

Because people in power want to stay in power, and one stays in power by maintaining the support of the public at large, this is even true in the case of theocracies or dictatorships, it's just that the mechanisms to unseat someone from power in those systems are a bit tougher to get to work. If enough of the public at large are convinced of an idea then it becomes a policy that is advantageous for a leader to pursue. So if you clearly demonstrate to enough people that x is a good thing/y is a bad thing then it becomes more likely that an idea will be adopted within that society. (This by the way is also obviously how repressive laws come into being)

As a leader you can be loved, or you can be feared, or even just disliked but respected, but what you can't be is hated, and one way to be hated is to be seen to be opposed to the will of society at large.

 

[GO]

. Facebook activism really is the pits.

This.

Snakeyball snaked it outta the stadium

 

[Moods For Mallards]

what? are you saying having female children does more to combat sexism than acknowledging or challenging it?

@snakybus is great at this

 

[nooleen]

You don't need to know fuck all about "gender issues" to assure your children that they are as good as anyone else on earth no matter their gender, religion, race or anything else.

and what the fuck is that contributing to "women's sports and women's stuff in general "?

 

[washingcattle]

and what the fuck is that contributing to "women's sports and women's stuff in general "?

How is that even a question ?

"Hey daughter"

"Yes father"

"You are equal to everyone else on the planet, no matter their race gender religion or nationality"

"Yes father"

"What would you like to do today?"

"Boxing"

"Right lets find you a club and some gloves"


Is that simple enough ?

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Does anyone know this @egg_ person?

Is he generally this wilfully thick?

What's feminism? What's gender? I have no idea.

For someone that is sent into a dark haze of confusion when feminism is mentioned, he has a fairly ready bunch of counter arguments.

 

[nooleen]

How is that even a question ?

"Hey daughter"

"Yes father"

"You are equal to everyone else on the planet, no matter their race gender religion or nationality"

"Yes father"

"What would you like to do today?"

"Boxing"

"Right lets find you a club and some gloves"


Is that simple enough ?

/father leaves room and logs onto the internet to shout down women trying to explain and share experiences of how real world sexism is harmful/

 

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TED talks do not help anything at all.

 

[ann post]

TED talks do not help anything at all.

I interviewed a woman yesterday who recieved entire funding and backup support for a project after walking off stage at a ted talk.