US Presidential Debate #2 (1 Viewer)

[pete]

ST. LOUIS, Missouri (CNN) -- There was no clear winner of the second presidential debate, a poll taken late Friday suggests.

A CNN/USA Today/Gallup snap poll taken immediately after the presidential debate Friday night found that respondents gave a slight, statistically insignificant edge to Sen. John Kerry over President Bush, 47 percent to 45 percent.

The respondents included 515 registered voters who watched the debate. Their political affiliations broke down as 38 percent Republican, 32 percent Democratic and 30 percent independent.

The poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points, making the results a virtual draw.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/09/snap.poll/


However, the poll on the CNN website says different:

Who won the second presidential debate?

President Bush 21% 82356 votes

John Kerry 77% 301874 votes

Evenly matched 3% 10116 votes

Total: 394346 votes

Again, it'll be interesting to see how that shapes up once the rest of America wakes up and gets online.

I watched it myself & although i thought Bush did well at times, and came across pretty down to earth, Kerry talked rings around him.

(anyone know if he really does own a timber company?)

 

[pete]

(anyone know if he really does own a timber company?)

aha. good old Fox News* have the facts:

Kerry startled Bush by saying that the president is counted as a small business for tax purposes because he once earned $84 from a timber company he owns.
"I own a timber company?" Bush asked. "That's news to me." Then he paused and added, "Need some wood?"

That baffling exchange arises from an analysis by the Annenberg Public Policy Center's FactCheck.org debunking Bush's claims that Kerry's plans to raise taxes on the richest Americans would increase the tax burden on 900,000 small businesses.

The analysis found that the Bush campaign is counting every rich person who has even $1 of outside business income as a small business owner, even if they have no employees.

The analysis said even Bush qualifies under that definition because he reported $84 in income from his part-ownership of a timber enterprise on his 2001 federal tax return.

* yeah ok,ok it was an AP report, quoting factcheck.org

 

[pete]

Who won the second presidential debate?

President Bush 23% 133569 votes

John Kerry 74% 426398 votes

Evenly matched 3% 17411 votes


Total: 577378 votes

Same cnn poll as above.

 

[pete]

and again:

Who won the second presidential debate?

President Bush 41% 330549 votes

John Kerry 57% 464427 votes

Evenly matched 2% 19815 votes

Total: 814791 votes

 

[pete]

one more time

Who won the second presidential debate?

President Bush 46% 415029 votes

John Kerry 52% 475448 votes

Evenly matched 2% 20529 votes
Total: 911006 votes

 

[pete]

Who won the second presidential debate?

President Bush 48% 457102 votes

John Kerry 50% 480867 votes

Evenly matched 2% 20850 votes
Total: 958819 votes

that's quite a swing

 

[pete]

You have now entererd.... The Twilight Zone:

Who won the second presidential debate?

President Bush 50% 498220 votes

John Kerry 48% 485905 votes

Evenly matched 2% 21163 votes

Total: 1005288 votes

 

[oh shit]

You have now entererd.... The Twilight Zone:

hm... numbers increasing... like re-writing history... it all seems really familiar for some reason.

 

[pete]

Who won the second presidential debate?

President Bush 57% 711870 votes

John Kerry 42% 521932 votes

Evenly matched 2% 23405 votes
Total: 1257207 votes

I guess republican voters stay in bed longer than democrats.....

 

[oh shit]

Crazy mothafucka!

 

[Buckrake]

Everyone one is gettting all hysterical about the bulge in his jacket, saying he was wearing a wire... has anyone considered the possibility that it was just his tail?

 

[moc]

http://guardian.assets.digivault.co.uk/clark_county/

 

[LMD64]

Everyone one is gettting all hysterical about the bulge in his jacket, saying he was wearing a wire... has anyone considered the possibility that it was just his tail?

Totally. I reckon if he wins this time, the back of his suit will split open and giant red batwings will unfold and he'll rain down hellish destruction for 40 days and nights over the cities of the world, and higher tax breaks for millionaires also.

 

[THRILLHO]

http://cryptome.quintessenz.at/mirror/bush-bulge.htm has 28 images of the "bulge", as well as a quick article summarising the history of this rumour.

Best line: "Milli Vanilli for president".