seaners
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There is a massive qualitative difference in the autonomy of the people taking the actions. ie the people taking it upon themselves to physically confront fascists are acting as individuals (sometimes acting as part of a non-hierarchical umbrella group), with no authority vested in themselves from a higher power or delegating that power and authority to others further down the chain of command. Compare this with a war-mongering president who sits in a luxurious office several continents away from the battlefield and sends orders to soldiers he has never met and probably never will meet to go and kill other people who in turn they have never met or had any reason to personally assault just because they have been told to follow orders in some strategy that they had no imput into. Comparing the two is completely disingenuous imho.
the moralising is weird. Deciding when something is absolutely RIGHT or absolutely WRONG just leads to people being stuck in ideologies and self-righteousness. Every single action and interaction in life is unique and should be treated as such. Obviously for the sake of discussion we need to generalise situations, but it seems like people just want to find a right way of doing things and apply that across the board regardless of the consequences, kind of like christians, liberals, communists, platformists and all those other groups I love.
As regards bricks in the faces of cops as propaganda. It depends on who you're trying to impress. If you're trying to appeal to middle-class values (sorry, hate this classist shite...) then it's not very effective, if you're trying to appeal to disaffected youth who get beaten up by the cops every weekend it might well be of some interest to them. Its all tactics. Some people might even take the opinion that they're not propagandising at all, simply reflecting the way that they feel and act, and letting other people make their own mind up as opposed to trying to convince them of the rightness of their viewpoints.
Nazis - down with that sort of thing
the moralising is weird. Deciding when something is absolutely RIGHT or absolutely WRONG just leads to people being stuck in ideologies and self-righteousness. Every single action and interaction in life is unique and should be treated as such. Obviously for the sake of discussion we need to generalise situations, but it seems like people just want to find a right way of doing things and apply that across the board regardless of the consequences, kind of like christians, liberals, communists, platformists and all those other groups I love.
As regards bricks in the faces of cops as propaganda. It depends on who you're trying to impress. If you're trying to appeal to middle-class values (sorry, hate this classist shite...) then it's not very effective, if you're trying to appeal to disaffected youth who get beaten up by the cops every weekend it might well be of some interest to them. Its all tactics. Some people might even take the opinion that they're not propagandising at all, simply reflecting the way that they feel and act, and letting other people make their own mind up as opposed to trying to convince them of the rightness of their viewpoints.
Nazis - down with that sort of thing