panning drums hard right and bass hard left (1 Viewer)

[theoootini]

i'm currently listeing to this. it seems that a lot of the tracks have the drums panned hard left and the bass panned hard right.

is this a common way for 70s era songs to be mixed? sounds really strange on earphones...

 

[ann post]

i think it was in the 60's, when 8 track was invented by stapling two 4 tracks together, they had no panning control, so usually the rythymym section was on one ear and the vocal melody lines and so forth on the other for clarity. on the queens of the stone age song ehhhh song for the dead (i think), they use both, the drums go left for the verse and centre for the repetitive riff part.

 

[Goodbye]

I cant listen to The Beatles on headphones

 

[Anthony]

They Might Be Giants have a good bit of panning fun. Like all the music one one side and the vocals on the other. I love it.

 

[dudley]

was reading about the beatles albums somewhere recently, and how they didn't give a damn about the stereo mixes. everything is meant to be heard in mono, with all tracks dead centre. seemingly the beatles wouldn't even sit in on the stereo mixing sessions.
i think many older records mixed like this were originally mixed for mono, so don't translate that well to stereo. but when it's done properly it can sound great. much of 'hearts of oak' by ted leo is hard panned, or almost hard panned. sounds cool.

 

[Unicron]

They Might Be Giants have a good bit of panning fun. Like all the music one one side and the vocals on the other. I love it.

Okkervil River did it a lot on Black Sheep Boy too.

 

[the departed]

some of qotsa rated R too. it can work quite well if it's used to effect. wouldn't like a whole record like that though.

 

[Pantone247]

natural bridge by silver jews is very much drums on the left, bass on the right

 

[Scientician 0.8]

I cant listen to The Beatles on headphones

Not just me then.

 

[pissypants]

Motown.

 

[Red_Dog]

I mix everything in mono on a 70s genelic ksm520 with the tweeter removed - then bounce up to 5.1 with a submix in quad and effects returns in 7.1 , then patch that through my colection of lead fridge magnets, with firdge door open but lightbuld removed to prevent ground loops.I used this technique on my album : 2 hour 440hz test tone in A

 

[kings lead hat]

velvet underground - get 2 albums for price of 1

 

[Denny Oubidoux]

why is it that doubling a track and panning them left and right sounds different to one track in the middle? the single track is still coming out through both headphones.

 

[theoootini]

maybe listen harder?

 

[cunt]

So is the album any use? Like some of the shit Finders Keepers throw out.

 

[ogy]

why is it that doubling a track and panning them left and right sounds different to one track in the middle? the single track is still coming out through both headphones.

its just louder than the original. stereo pan law thing. as you pan a sound across the speakers the loudness is gradually reduced towards the centre (usually towards -3db). this gives the impression that the loudness stays the same across the stereo field, whereas panning out of the same track doesnt do this so you probably just get a 3db louder version of the original.

 

[Denny Oubidoux]

its just louder than the original. stereo pan law thing. as you pan a sound across the speakers the loudness is gradually reduced towards the centre (usually towards -3db). this gives the impression that the loudness stays the same across the stereo field, whereas panning out of the same track doesnt do this so you probably just get a 3db louder version of the original.

its still a mystery to me though. when you have the stereo thing going on, if its vocals for example, it sounds like theres two people singing, one on your left and one on your right yet with just a single track it doesnt sound like two people singing a bit more quietly, just like one person in front.

 

[ann post]

well also consider, your ears aren't identical.

 

[ogy]

are you sure you don't have some kind of effect on one of the tracks or theyre slightly out of sync or something? if you have an identical track in both speakers perfectly synced it should definitely sound like its in the middle, if not theres something up with your setup i think!

 

[theoootini]

So is the album any use? Like some of the shit Finders Keepers throw out.

yep. worth a purchase alright!