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[Scientician 0.8]

Peter Snow's other son had a hit back in the day with "Informer" but I didn't hear anyone complaining about nepotism then.

 

[nooleen]

I'd have thought that nepotism was preferential treatment or favoritism.
Being a relative doesn't necessarily mean you're not the best person for the job.

welllllllllll, not technically maybe

it's not like they're doing rocket science though is it, they just need some lad to present some ould shite about britain whenever. and hey look, here's my son!

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

welllllllllll, not technically maybe

it's not like they're doing rocket science though is it, they just need some lad to present some ould shite about britain whenever. and hey look, here's my son!

Wellllll, technically you got us into definitions, which is sorta technical.

But exactly my point. It seems like obvious favoritism in that specific case; but there's no damage done as it's just some programme no one saw. Vexing, but not harmful.
Not sure how you deal with this sort of thing.

I'm sure NASA have it figured out though.

 

[nooleen]

wha? the jobs are going to the sons/brother/nephew of some lad instead of everyone having a fair go at them; that's the point the article is making

 

[Lili Marlene]

I'd wager that being a relative probably means you weren't the best person for the job.

edit the rest: ah nevermind

 

[Lili Marlene]

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[nooleen]

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

wha? the jobs are going to the sons/brother/nephew of some lad instead of everyone having a fair go at them; that's the point the article is making

A cherry-picked example of a few jobs. Which happens everywhere.
Sometimes it's bad and sometimes it's not.

If he's going to make the case, he needs more than anecdotal evidence and he probably needs to tie it to actual harm done.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

I'd wager that being a relative probably means you weren't the best person for the job.

Hardly.
For any number of reasons, they can often be the best people for the job, depending on the circumstances.
Nepotism is not the same thing as hiring relatives. It just overlaps.

 

[nooleen]

A cherry-picked example of a few jobs. Which happens everywhere.
Sometimes it's bad and sometimes it's not.

If he's going to make the case, he needs more than anecdotal evidence and he probably needs to tie it to actual harm done.

examples aren't anecdotal evidence

the harm done is that the job is taken by a family member of a senior employee and not offered fairly, by a publicly-funded organisation that "aims to reflect the diversity of the UK."

 

[Lili Marlene]

Have you even read the article? It's not an article about nepotism in the BBC.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Have you even read the article? It's not an article about nepotism in the BBC.

But that's the aspect we're talking about.

examples aren't anecdotal evidence

They're anecdotal without hard evidence of wider practice.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

I should add that I don't really give a toss about the BBC

 

[Lili Marlene]

But that's the aspect we're talking about.

Ok, well then you'll be happy to know that at no point does this article claim that nepotism is widely practiced in the BBC.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Ok, well then you'll be happy to know that at no point does this article claim that nepotism is widely practiced in the BBC.

Just heavily implies it

What this personnel snapshot reveals is an organization structured upon an almost hermetically sealed class system where, if not outright nepotism, certainly a family introduction seems to advance careers,

 

[Lili Marlene]

A family introduction is not nepotism.

Similar to how a single example is not a wider study.

 

[nooleen]

They're anecdotal without hard evidence of wider practice.

6 high-profile examples isn't enough?

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

organization

Are these Americans?

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

6 high-profile examples isn't enough?

In an organisation with 20,000+ employees?

I dunno.
We have 300 or so in here and I'd say at least 6 people are relatives. I wouldn't call the practice widespread for us.
But I don't know where we sit on the scale of things.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

A family introduction is not nepotism.

When he says "if not outright nepotism" his meaning is "it's basically nepotism". It's why he uses the word nepotism. He wants you to regard it as such.
His meaning is certainly not "A family introduction is not nepotism.". It is essentially the opposite of that.

if not outright nepotism, certainly a family introduction seems to advance careers,